• DifferenceEngine [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    the were amazing bits of television like desmond's introduction or when the hobbit dies, but the show also didn't know where it was going and is really tedious to watch

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It was part of the Abrams "mystery box" garbage fire that continues to burn to this day, making him richer and richer by way of an ongoing long con of self promotion and unjustified hype. He can't finish a story with any satisfaction, only start one then delegate and collect the lucre.

    :nyet:

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I would summarize it as "pretension without payoff."

        The term "mystery box" comes from a J.J. Abrams TED talk the filmmaker delivered in 2007. In his speech, Abrams argued that all stories are essentially a series of questions and mysteries leading the audience from beginning to end. Somewhat ironically, he uses the original Star Wars film as an example - "who is the woman fiddling with R2-D2?" "Who is Obi-Wan Kenobi?" But Abrams also brings onstage a real, physical magic box from his childhood that was never opened. The director uses this nostalgic toy to argue that the creation of mystery and the sense of potential is sometimes the most exciting and engaging part of a story. Young Abrams didn't open his $15 magic box because the thought of what might be inside was more interesting than actually ripping the thing open and finding out.

        Abrams has applied this concept to his movies and TV shows over the years, but with mixed results. An incredibly effective example of the mystery box at work can be found in Cloverfield, which Abrams produced. The mystery box here is the origin of the titular monster and how it came to arrive on Earth. Throughout the film, that mystery intrigues and fascinates, but the box is never opened. In his TED talk, Abrams stated that the true purpose of the mystery box is to elicit character development and emotion. Where Cloverfield succeeds is by capturing its audience with the mystery of the monster, but never needing to open the box in order to develop the characters. Where Clover came from has no bearing on the plight of the protagonists or the impact of the monster arriving in New York City.

        Examples of less effective mystery boxes can be found in Lost. Listing all of Lost's boxes would take far too long, but some of the biggest include the importance of Walt, the meaning of the numbers, and the true nature of the island, and these three mystery boxes highlight three different pitfalls with Abrams' theory. Lost's Walt mystery box wasn't just left unopened but abandoned altogether, proving that a box needs to stay present in the story in order to be effective. Lost's strange recurring sequence of numbers proved that, sometimes, a mystery does need to be opened in order to satisfy viewers. And lastly, the island was so integral in the development of characters such as Locke, Jack and Hurley, that not opening the box on its true purpose hindered character development, rather than facilitating it.

        https://screenrant.com/star-wars-rise-skywalker-abrams-mystery-box-bad/

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I thought it was really entertaining but by the time it got to the final season I realized that they were never going to explain all of those mysterious teases and I felt cheated.

    Edit: Did you mean to put this in !movies@hexbear.net?

    • Owl [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Lost isn't /c/memes but Loss is /c/memes so I can see why someone would get confused.

  • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I watched Carlton Cuse's show before he made LOST, Nash Bridges, and for a cop procedural on CBS it was good, still better than anything they put out now. It was mostly focused on the characters and a lot of the criminals were rich people ripping folks off. It also has Stone Cold Steve Austin as a recurring character in the later seasons, with Cheech Marin and Don Johnson in the lead roles.

    I watched lost as it came out, it had some great moments and good ideas. It also soured me on JJ Abrams by the end of the series. Mystery Box tv/movie writing is insulting to viewers and became a trend that was copied often.

    LOL I just checked out what Cuse is up to now and he's the creator of the Amazon Jack Ryan propaganda show.