• asaharyev [he/him]
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    But no, it's actually a good thing for the Democratic party to cater to "moderate" republicans. No, the party definitely isn't moving to the right!

    THE MOST PROGRESSIVE PLATFORM SINCE FDR

    • GottaJiBooUrns [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Catering to the moderate Republicans while at the same time getting angry that the left won't move to the right along with them. Brilliant strategy.

    • KoeRhee [he/him]
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      They don't even say most progressive since FDR, or LBJ, or anybody. They say most progressive eVeRrR!!!!1!. LBJ was a genocide enabling war criminal who acted as a complete scourge on all of South-East Asia, but domestically, the Civil Rights Act + The Voting Rights Act + trying to end poverty in the US as we know it is more progressive than anything that has ever crossed Joe's fucking mind, let alone what he actually promises, and don't even fucking talk about what the corporations and Republicans are gonna manage to negotiate him down to (if he gets in). It's incredibly annoying but also completely expected that, understanding that the younguns don't believe in meaningless platitudes nearly as much as they did in 2008 (because they want actual policy and positions after getting duped the last time), instead of just giving the kiddos policies and positions that people are actually excited to vote on, the party would rather gaslight its voters into thinking that Joe is the best thing that has ever been reasonably possible to elect in this country.

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        calling people LARPers while telling people to vote for Biden

        Yeah, ok.

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            Oh look, it's you. Advocating voting for Biden.

            Voting Biden would humiliate white supremacists, they would stop having their racist and neocon rhetoric validated from the very top. That alone is already a massive benefit.

            People here aren't voting for Trump. Unless you conflate any vote other than Biden (or not voting) with a vote for Trump. I'm not going to tell you who to vote for, but please, for everyone's sake, stop arguing that voting for Biden is going to do anything to materially help the working class.

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                No one is saying to not attack Trump. Holy shit, fuck off back to /r/politics if you can't understand the difference between praising Trump and criticizing Biden.

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                    It's clear that the user you're quoting is using "on paper" to look at the situation from the perspective of someone who only looks at the name on their letter with the stimulus.

                    people are going to look at Trump and say yeah this guy gave me money versus your whole lotta nothing you’re promising me

                    Oh look, they even clarified that they don't personally believe that Trump is helping, but that they believe many in middle America will see it that way. Yet here you are, still willfully misunderstanding what they are saying and deliberately misrepresenting it as a defense of Trump.

                      • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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                        This is not backed by any facts, it’s literal propaganda.

                        That doesn't matter. Americans are trying to tell you, the people here are not able to discern what is propoganda and what is real. Trump voters especially are not educated and don't care about actual facts. We're saying the people who vote for him are doing it for that reason because the media hides shit like tax breaks that people wouldn't like. Or they just have brainworms and don't care.