If you're going to say this kind of shit you need to point to specific policies and not be intentionally vague. And the policies you point to need to overcome the fact that the USMCA was at best a modest improvement over a shit trade deal, block granting Medicaid, the 2018 tax cuts which overwhelmingly benefited the very rich, removed a rule guaranteeing overtime pay to millions of workers, repealed a rule mandating that retirement investment advisers prioritize the worker's interest over their own, reduced oversight on payday lenders, the government shut down that left workers unpaid for weeks, being vocal about his intention to repeal ACA (which as shit as it is many people support it and rely on it). Just because Biden is bad and Trump tells his base he's helping them doesn't make it true at all, and why would he? He has no fucking incentive to help people he has no class interest with when he can whip their votes with culture war shit.
Look I think Trump is a total fraud, his policies have not actually done anything for these people. Trump isn't helping anyone. This is about how he makes people feel as if he was helping them.
But rhetorically, he has a strength over Biden in this area. Most voters don't pay attention to facts, they just pay attention to what the news has been telling them right around the time they're about to vote.
Trump can act like he's bringing the jobs back in a way Biden hasn't been (even though Bidens written platform actually has ways that would being back manufacturing jobs and Trump doesn't even have a platform). It's that Biden has a history of supporting outsourcing that Trump doesn't have rhetorically.
If you're going to argue optics and rhetoric then argue optics and rhetoric. What you said was "it’s not unreasonable to believe he did more for the white working class of the Midwest and other small towns than Biden has in his entire career." You didn't say certain people might think he's done more for the working class you said that he might have actually done more for the working class which is just absolutely not true. Just because Biden is also bad doesn't mean Trump is somehow less bad.
My comment isn't about him materially doing more and if it came across that way that was wrong. I am only talking about how people are able to convince themselves that he's done more for them than Biden.
The fact that Joe Biden is no longer supporting free trade after supporting it for 40 years of his career is something Trump can point to and say, hey this is something I've actually done. Changing the DC consensus on free trade is certainly something a group of concerned voters could use as reasoning for why they think he's been better than Trump.
Maybe it's just editorializing by journalists, but I've seen a number of stories and segments over the past few weeks that find some former Obama voters in small town pennsylvania and michigan who say this sort of thing. That they think Trump is better for them because of his positions around trade and less so around environmental regulation.
If you're going to say this kind of shit you need to point to specific policies and not be intentionally vague. And the policies you point to need to overcome the fact that the USMCA was at best a modest improvement over a shit trade deal, block granting Medicaid, the 2018 tax cuts which overwhelmingly benefited the very rich, removed a rule guaranteeing overtime pay to millions of workers, repealed a rule mandating that retirement investment advisers prioritize the worker's interest over their own, reduced oversight on payday lenders, the government shut down that left workers unpaid for weeks, being vocal about his intention to repeal ACA (which as shit as it is many people support it and rely on it). Just because Biden is bad and Trump tells his base he's helping them doesn't make it true at all, and why would he? He has no fucking incentive to help people he has no class interest with when he can whip their votes with culture war shit.
Look I think Trump is a total fraud, his policies have not actually done anything for these people. Trump isn't helping anyone. This is about how he makes people feel as if he was helping them.
But rhetorically, he has a strength over Biden in this area. Most voters don't pay attention to facts, they just pay attention to what the news has been telling them right around the time they're about to vote.
Trump can act like he's bringing the jobs back in a way Biden hasn't been (even though Bidens written platform actually has ways that would being back manufacturing jobs and Trump doesn't even have a platform). It's that Biden has a history of supporting outsourcing that Trump doesn't have rhetorically.
If you're going to argue optics and rhetoric then argue optics and rhetoric. What you said was "it’s not unreasonable to believe he did more for the white working class of the Midwest and other small towns than Biden has in his entire career." You didn't say certain people might think he's done more for the working class you said that he might have actually done more for the working class which is just absolutely not true. Just because Biden is also bad doesn't mean Trump is somehow less bad.
My comment isn't about him materially doing more and if it came across that way that was wrong. I am only talking about how people are able to convince themselves that he's done more for them than Biden.
The fact that Joe Biden is no longer supporting free trade after supporting it for 40 years of his career is something Trump can point to and say, hey this is something I've actually done. Changing the DC consensus on free trade is certainly something a group of concerned voters could use as reasoning for why they think he's been better than Trump.
Maybe it's just editorializing by journalists, but I've seen a number of stories and segments over the past few weeks that find some former Obama voters in small town pennsylvania and michigan who say this sort of thing. That they think Trump is better for them because of his positions around trade and less so around environmental regulation.
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