Everything you love will be turned against you for the benefit of the dominant ideology
We have to love one another in a way they can't attach to money
There's also apparently an "Elon Musk High School" on Mars in NuTrek :doomer:
Don't worry, they're just studying him to learn what not to do. :thonk-cri:
Because Star Trek has NEVER had bad writing in the first season before. :picard-direct-action:
"I don't know if I'll ever get used to a woman on the bridge." - TOS
"Code of Honor" on its entirety- TNG
Refusing to let Garak be gay - DS9
Neelix dating a literal two year-old - VOY
Every decontamination scene - ENT
Every Trek is good and every Trek is cringe. This is the paradox of the franchise and to pretend otherwise is reactionary nostalgia.
Edit: Early faux-native Chakotay is definitely the cringiest part of early VOY.
yeah but the new ones are definitely a different level of cringe. They got the Alex kurtzman disease now
I will take a producer who makes some not great films/shows rather than an abusive, sexist bully like Rick Berman.
hack TV/film writer who sucks. Worked on the Transformer movies and now writes for new trek. He sucks and has lib brainworms.
honestly Picard is the best hate watch I've had in a long time
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Borg queen possesses girl from Scott pilgrim and makes her sing pat benatar because reasons
This is like saying Kevin Feige writes every single Marvel movie. He heads the general franchise at Paramount, not a show runner/writer/director on any series at this time.
yeah that's the problem. The general franchise is now just about generic scifi space battles and violence. Newest Picard season is some crazy shit about ICE (like literally American immigration). Also federation is fascist (called the Confederation lmao) and yet another fucking trump story now. They literally wrote a sci-fi show about 21st century America, like how lazy and uncreative are you?
any of the actual heart of star trek: exploration, discovery, diplomacy; is simply gone now.
Also federation is fascist (called the Confederation lmao) and yet another fucking trump story now.
I think this shows that, for certain liberals, Star Trek was always a direct allegory for the United States - rather than an imaginary future. Trump broke their understanding of the United States as 'moral' entity, so the Federation has to be outright evil now.
Sounds like you've only seen the promos because that stuff is barely part of the season. The show is about exploration of the self, particularly JL and him coming to terms on why he is the way he is.
The thing about old Trek is that you could argue every series had strong points both from a critical storytelling perspective but also from an ideological basis that easily made up for the low points.
There are far more low points then the ones you listed too. In Voyager Chakotay is basically a made up character based on hollywood stereotypes perpetrated by a literal fraud. Look up Jamake Highwater.
Even in the 90s stupid MSM liberal media were trying to desperately force "diversity" by praising whatever half assed effort made by literal frauds and hacks. Hollywood media praised a character native americans found to be extremely offensive.
But all that said I'd take any season of Voyager over whatever garbage Kurtzman and his hack team makes up. It wasn't a great show, but there are some excellent Voyager episodes that easily rank among the best of Trek.
You'll never be able to say this about STD or Picard or whatever shitty spinoff they make next.
VOY is my favorite series despite Chakotay, Neelix, and other stumbling blocks and it never really reached its full potential due to meddling from Berman and other studio execs. DS9 only got away with innovating because Berman was too busy micromanaging VOY.
As for new shows, they're not episodic so it's a fundamentally different way to approach to storytelling. It's just the landscape of prestige TV. You can't just pick a self-contained story to compare. Prodigy and Lower Decks are great episodic TV and Strange New Worlds offers a return to that format as well.
Every decontamination scene - ENT
:spray-bottle: :spray-bottle: :spray-bottle:
His gratuitous use of catsuits warrants an entire Volcel task force
Probably my biggest gripe with Enterprise, like they wrote episodes around T'pol and Trip rubbing each other down at every opportunity.
Picard has JL saying "Fuck ICE" and that mental illness is not a weakness while in TNG he tries to forcibly relocate a native colony against their will and praising America. One way more cringe than the other.
Encouraging others to passively consume a product and not expect any improvements of it seems more like a reactionary take to me. Also this cringe is not self contained into the first seasons in these new shows and I don't understand how you could think otherwise and still call it "cringe."
Nobody in New Trek recites the Pledge of Allegiance for the audience like a kindergarten class.
You're forgetting it's accidentally based because
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The person referencing Musk is from the Mirror Universe
This is copium imo, for a few reasons. Mirror universe logic would mean that musk isn't necessarily bad like he is in our universe. More importantly, no one in the show who was not in the mirror universe thought it was weird. Then there's this: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Musk_Junior_High_School as well as a number of other very lib parts of discovery.
Mirror Universe doesn't necessarily mean everyone flips their alignment, Miles is a decent dude in both realities.
This is true, I did not say mirror musk was definitely good. Just that while your headcanon can be whatever you want, it really doesn't make sense in the context of the show for this to have been a slip up of someone from the mirror universe trying to blend in. From a storytelling standpoint, we as the audience have no idea who mirror elon musk was, and it wasn't treated like a strange remark, and the show does nothing to establish that the other characters see musk other than a hero or at least major historical figure that greatly impacted technology and space travel and is viewed in a generally positive light.
this is my head canon - dropping :melon-musk: name was a clue that he came from the mirror universe
Yeah. That was the big plot twist for the second half of the season's story arc.
Lmao
If they got paid by Elon to put this in without him knowing it was a fascist character saying it, that's actually amazing
I doubt we'll have a sci-fi future if Mr.
Mask of an unspeakable horrorMusk is placed alongside the Wright Brothers in terms of scientific ingenuity.Rich guy who hired a bunch of engineers to do
coatcost cutting on an already understood scientific problem is the same as being an inventor.The Marxist engineers are trying to convert between yards of linen and coats again
How do you know if someone is a Marxist?
They never shut up about making linen coats.
If real life people like Elon Musk are canon in the lore that implies the actions and polices of people like him literally lead to the Post Atomic Horror lol
Trek Elon Musk was probably posting dogwhistles about Gabriel Bell on Trek twitter
Wow, so in a few years someone will actually try to do something about the homelessness crisis? And actually respond to a pandemic with something other than apathy and penny-pinching?
Had the same experience at like 11 pm last night. Idk what it was
Well, Star Trek is Posadist.
A Guy who brought us closer to Nuclear Apocalypse could be part of a great man pantheon in that world.
i wish there was a way to make an overtly communist star trek spinoff/reboot somehow. or just even like a fanfiction. be cool to keep most of the core concepts, maybe harden up the science a bit. yes i know this is basically The Culture series but i'm thinking more culture-ifying star trek instead
i enjoyed the first few episodes but isn't it kind of lib? or is it actually a communist society? seth mcfarlane is kind of king shitlib
It's a little lib and a bit cringe in season 1(though less than I was expecting), but it's clearly a moneyless society to the extent people are confused by capitalism and they need a person obsessed with the 20th century to explain things to them.
But really, Seth pitched a satire to the executives and tricked them into funding a Star Trek Series. It has a bit more toilet humour but it's never that much goofier than, say, Star Trek 4. And Season 2 is up there with any Star Trek.
hmm i might have to give it another shot. even more so if they finally do a Culture series but fucking amazon/Bezos produces it.
