The Suffragettes just straight up killed people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign

Carrie a Nation was part of the temperance movement and would destroy bars and saloons with a hatchet. At least thirty times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nation

Lyudmila Pavlichenko didn't fuck around or cut corners. She shot fascists. Hundreds of them. Also, met Eleanor Roosevelt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

The Night Witches dealt with fascists using the world's original stealth bombers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches

Judith used a sword

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_beheading_Holofernes

The Gulabi Gang beat rapists with sticks

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2014/3/4/gulabi-gang-indias-women-warriors

Kurdish Women in the Peshmerga fought and contributed to the destruction of ISIS. Front line, machine guns in hand.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/peshmerga-female-fighters-frontline-sideline

Harriet Tubman carried a gun and lead Union troops as a scout during the Civil War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman#Scouting_and_the_Combahee_River_Raid

Feel free to add on and pass it around. There's like 180 million women in this country and we only need to radicalize thirty or forty thousand of them.

  • Heifer [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Now picture what the context of this exact thread on Reddit would be :deeper-sadness:

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      " Lyudmila Pavlichenko should have voted the Nazis out of russia but also actually the Nazis were the heroes and killed evil stalin and were also welcomed as liberators 100 gorillionzillion checkmate commies slava ukraini thanks for the gold kind stranger"

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          They invented the mail bomb. I didn't know until i looked them up today. It's a shame so many of them were middle class chuds, but I guess that's what you get when you're fighting for the rights of a single slice of society and intersectionality is 60 years in the future.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      "You're not actually suggesting violence - are you? Reddit's TOS is quite clear on this issue. It states quote mommy-daddy-rucky-tucky-yada-yada-boot-licky-whoop-de-do unquote..."

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Oh don't worry I was very specific in stating that no one should do any of these things because it wouldn't be civil.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Many times last year in r/politics I was sorely tempted to joke that Manchin and other recalcitrant dems be put in thumb screws until they saw the light and decided to vote the right way. I decided it wasn't worth a 3 week "temp" ban. Or the mods might have even permabanned me.

          But I have regrets now. I should have said it. Maybe I could have made a few posts saying it until a mod did his thing. Of course that would mean I'd never, ever post in that sub again because of the TOS. Haha.

          I have to admit - that I was certain Biden and the dems would pass at least part of BBB. Maybe a hacked-to-pieces 1/3 or it or whatever would limp to the finish line. It blows my mind that money ran out of covid and they did (and will do) nothing on spending for climate change, protecting voting rights, and protecting reproductive rights. And everything else utterly failed too. Police reform legislation for example. I figured they'd pass a very shitty police reform bill and then they'd lie a lot and like GOP justices and say it was "substantial". But they didn't even do that. They just said: "Nah, fuck it. Fuck it all."

          I've mentioned that stuff over and over in r/politics and how I won't vote this year and I've never gotten a sane, rational response. Usually I only get downvotes. Or somebody starts ranting about something I didn't even say.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            I get the impression most libs are so brain poisoned by West Wing that they've never actually considered the idea that the president can and should coerce people in to voting his agenda. Obviously the president doesn't want to, but all it would take is a phone call to the IRS and the DoJ to make some rich person's life miserable and he could get his votes.

            I think Biden is both a useless dipshit, a reactionary dinosaur, and west wing brained, and the combination of those three elements in varying amounts means he doesn't have the chutzpah to actually coerce his "good friends" to do what they're told if they know what's good for him. The Dems... either they're completely, toothlessly incompetent, which is possible, or they're so ideologically brainwashed that they really don't believe the ends justify the means, or they're so isolated from normal people that they're not aware how close the country is to a breaking point, and how violently the GOP wants them all dead. Trying to make sense of their behavior is bizarre, given that the GOP conspired to have them all killed last year and they risk losing the legislative branch and executive branch forever. Which, like, fine, they get to be the permanent opposition, but they don't seem to understand that the Right views them as baby murdering cannibal demons and earnestly wants to kill them. They don't act like they think it's personal and will that they will be the targets of violence.

            • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              all it would take is a phone call to the IRS and the DoJ

              Not only is Manchin dirty - I bet his daughter is even worse. She's the reason Epipens are insanely expensive - just for starters.

              I think Biden is...

              I would add he certainly is ideologically brainwashed. He won't just cancel student debt in a simple fashion with an executive order - his brain is thoroughly ruined by ideology. If he does anything on that - it will be a confusing, idiotic mess with endless paperwork and loads of means testing. And I assume he actually thinks of cannabis as a "gateway drug". So an EO for that is an impossibility.

              how violently the GOP wants them all dead

              I felt so stupid last year when I finally realized the dems had begun starting to ignore that and with all their might pretending it didn't actually happen. They have world-class levels of denial. They seem to have no evolutionary instinct for self-preservation. It's shocking and fascinating.

              a breaking point

              I want to gleefully say I want the dems to lose ~80 seats in the house and a bunch of senate seats. But - of course - that's a new more horrible nightmare. The dems would flail around in total panic like a chicken without a head and then they'd make a huge lurch to the right in a moronic effort to stay alive.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
                hexagon
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                2 years ago

                Yeah. It's a great time for a revolution, it's just not gonna be our revolution. Which is very very bad.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_on_Waves comes to mind. Drones carrying pills. Pills in the mail.

        I mean for an abortion you don't really need much equipment, it's literally just a speculum, a cannula, syringe that can create a vacuum. It's not a complicated procedure and doesn't need... well... much of anything. You can do it in a kitchen. Takes a few minutes. Probably hurts like hell but I don't have the right equipment to really know.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_aspiration

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Collective

        The Jane Collective never had anyone die the whole time they were doing it.

        And, like, obvs, we can transport people across state lines and stuff, too.

        The tricky part is that you'd need to keep it all secret from the police. There's not really much physiological evidence of a first trimester pregnancy unless an obgyn gets a good look at you or you accidentally pee on a pregnancy test. It's probably high stakes but low complexity. Drive someone to point A, switch cars, drive them to the clinic, escort them in and out with a bag over their head so no one can ID them, do the procedure, back in the car, drive to a drop point, switch cars, go home. Tricky part would be if prolife freaks try to follow you or ID the patient. You could keep your "Cell" of drivers and escorts in a blue state and pick people up after they've crossed the border under their own power, or get a relay going of some kind. Make sure that no one in the relay knows anyone else, and everything is coordinated by a cell leader who never steps foot in Texas, so they can theoretically never catch and interrogate the coordinator, and therefore never find the relay members. Basic op-sec shit - turn your phone off, put it in a foil bag, leave it there unless and until you need it. Switch around vehicles as much as possible and don't use the same routes where it can be avoided.

        Economics and distance are primary problems. You have to pay for gas and accomodations. Just getting a couch-surfing network where people can stay the night and recover if they need to before heading home would be a big deal. Scrounging up money to help people pay for fuel or plane tickets and any medical costs.

        Getting information to patients would be tricky. It's easy to create a web portal to connect people, but that's prone to various kind of attacks as simple as just spamming fake requests for help.

        idk. I'm sure they already exist, and the people who know about them are the people who need to know about them.

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    It's unfortunate that it is so poorly recorded, but look at any revolutionary movement, especially those in the third world and in indigenous areas, and you'll find women on the forefront of the struggle, armed and fighting like their male counterparts. Even in Europe the women tend to be the spark that ignites the revolutionary blaze.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_war

    Edit: forgot this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_who_led_a_revolt_or_rebellion

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      When the people who aren't filled with testosterone are the ones that switch to violence the gloves come off in a movement, they are traditionally viewed as the calming voice, when they decide fighting is justified things escalate more than ever before.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    omg the Night Witches, fucking badass in both fact and name

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Aww man I was reading "How to Blow up a Pipeline" today and the author talks about this kind of thing. Just about every "non-violent" protest movement was either extremely violent or had a radical wing working alongside the main one.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Can you really call a union if it doesn't have an armed paramilitary auxiliary and at least one artillery piece?

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Carrie A. Nation would have been amazing as a video game NPC in the same spirit as Red Dead Redemption.

    Chuds would try to find ways to brutalize/kill her, but still.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Have her show up during cut scenes and rope you in to busting up saloons. I could see Arthur getting lead on that kind of adventure.