• KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Nothing says "this is not vapid tokenism" like boiling down characters' backgrounds into quantifiable numbers to determine if they meet a sufficient token threshold.

  • regul [any]
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    3 years ago

    This is what happens when you ask engineers to do representation.

    I absolutely love that they got some MIT weirdos to sit in a room and decide (as per the screenshot in the blog post) that the Egyptian ethnicity is a 7/10 on the diversity scale and the Arab race is also a 7/10.

  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    turning a big dial taht says "Diversity" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right

  • justjoshint [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    in the new rpg i try to max out ethnicity as fast as possible but i prefer to keep body type as close to zero as possible, i don't think the tradeoff from having 20+ points in body type is worth it

    • RION [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      imo high gender builds are really slept on this patch... been having a lot of success beelining to 26 for spell access and twinking in early areas. "Forbidden Gender Triad" wrecks low level opponents

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Forbidden Gender Triad would be a good name for a post deathfolk band.

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I know Torb is a dwarf I just never made the connection that he's a dwarf because they were trying to include people with dwarfism. I thought it was just a Blizzard/WoW type thing where they're staying in their wheelhouse. Rein has giant pauldrons and Moira looks like an Elf. I thought it was just them doing them.

    Maybe I'm just stupid.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      3 years ago

      No, its just them backtracking and trying to retcon their own design into being diverse, he's 100% just a fantasy dwarf but with technology, he speaks in the fantasy dwarf dialect with a slight tinge of Swedish in there, I'm pretty sure they felt the need to make a second Swedish character just because people pointed out how he's literally just a dorf.

    • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      I thought the high amount of "Ability" diversity points was because of his prosthetic hand.

  • hostilearchitecture [any]
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    3 years ago

    The further from the center, the more "ethnic" they are, or the more "gender orientation" they have, of course, makes sense. Very sane thing to plot on an axis of a radar chart...

    And of course it comes with a similarly objective way to evaluate their characterization and writing and plot relevance and...

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Are binary trans people more gender than non-binary people? Are agender people maxed or do they actually have a lower number than cis people? How do they quantify intersex people, as I imagine many would not feel comfortable getting categorized as being in the "gender identity" zone, whatever the hell that even means.

      How do they intend to quantify race? Is there some sort of marginalizedometer that they're going to be using? If someone is mixed race, will they just be averaging together the "ethnicity coefficients" for them or are they weighted? Is being white-passing a modifier? How do they define which countries are more ethnicity or culture and which are less? What does culture even mean in this sense?

      These things will puzzle me.

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      you’re going to be able to force characters to sit on a chair weirdly to determine if they’re bisexual

      :data-laughing:

  • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    god, this is terrible. there are some weird implications even in just these three characters.

    very short man is "less diverse" than very tall, muscular woman, whatever that means. being black is "less diverse" than being old? torbjorn's disability score is equally diverse as being a tall, muscular woman.

    what am i even reading :cat-confused:

        • KiaKaha [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Let’s napkin math this out.

          There are around 1 billion people alive over the age of 60, whereas there are 1.3 billion people alive in Africa.

          Ergo, old people are slightly rarer than black people.

          (Yes, doing this on a world population level leads to some weird outcomes, like white being more ‘diverse’ than almost any other race. But hey, Blizzard’s a global company now.)

          • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            btw that would also mean the way to max out Culture is to go for Monaco or Liechtenstein as country of birth

      • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        so what do you call it when different traits contribute more or less to that aggregate score? thats what im talking about.

  • justjoshint [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    too bad theres no people who might know how to depict diverse characters respectfully, we have no choice but to use an algorithm

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Libs continuing to live up to the most uncharitable right-wing stereotypes of what minority advocacy is

  • annapurna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    can anyone find a list of the scores/the tool itself? The article linked has one example (Arab = 7, woman = 5, etc) but I want to know everything