• Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      the guy dropped an extremely deep internet-poisoned white nationalist manifesto and livestreamed everything

      ah, just like the mosque shooter from new zealand

      • rubpoll [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Conservatives do want a social structure to exist (a fiercely hierarchical, competitive, unequal social structure, but still).

        Liberals, particularly Neoliberals, are the ones who explicitly want a purely individualist, atomized society whether they realize it or not.

        So when Conservatives are taught that Liberalism and Neoliberalism are the same as Socialism and Communism, it causes intense brain worms, and they start blaming socialism for the atomization of capitalist subjects.

        • Ideology [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Honestly, I thought GenZ would be all right because they picked up on how queerness and intersectionality works really fast. But there were secret incels among them the whole time and they still suck at racism.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            There's going to be some variations and outliers in a population of 70 million people.

            • Ideology [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Oh, definitely. I suppose it was just a surprise to see how toxic GenZ incel culture got. I figured that they'd learn from Millenials that it's a dead end.

              It feels like for GenX and Millenials, incel culture and alt-right culture kind of appeared in a vacuum to the surprise of boomers, who didn't really understand the weird doomer irony poisoning. Someone could get exposed to men's rights and pick up artist entrypoints, but not see the 'sjw' side of the equation until they started brigading them and already had ideological blinders on.

              At this point it's almost impossible to interact online without running into feminist culture and talking points, so the reaction of GenZers is now to encounter those talking points as a teenager, actively reject them because it makes them feel bad, and then get drawn into alt-right/incel entrypoints. So while Millenials and up seem to fall more into centrist grillpillism and buy-in to basic neolib rhetoric, GenZ seems to be more pushing itself to the extremes of leftism and fascism.

            • Ideology [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Nah, late Gen X started it off with the whole Columbine thing. There were news specials and documentaries about that event for years (though we would now consider it relatively unremarkable), and lots of schools started talking about bullying and increasing security.

              Then when Millenials came of age, similar bullied ideologues took notes from Columbine and started to copycat. But their ideologies were usually pretty isolated, self centered, and divorced from reality compared to the way it is now with pre-packaged conservative talking points. As the number of copycats increased, people started tying the ideology of those guys into the increasingly relevant antifeminism and eventually alt-right movements. Millenials really perfected the craft and turned it into a diy adventurism spectacle and made the incel shooter into a hero of 'socially disadvantaged' white guys. It's like their version of theory.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                3 years ago

                The funny thing is that the columbine shooters weren't bullied. They were neo-nazis. They attacked the school on Hitler's birthday. I found out about it just a few years ago because the media never talked about it. Instead the media attributed it to bullying and the "trenchcoat mafia" that wasn't even affiliated with the shooters.

    • VeganTendies [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      They hate you. Most if not all Americans are secretly laughing about it, supporting this kid.

      They want you and I dead for literally no reason except they think it's funny.

      • InternetLefty [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        You think "most if not all" Americans are happy to see a mass shooting?