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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.

Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Yesterday's discussion post.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      The shitlibbery is reducing an an entire complex nation and people with a robust history and culture as “just homophobes” as if that’s their only cultural export. This is the same shit libs do with Afghanistan, Syria, Iran to justify invading “evil theocracies”

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Wonder why Chinese might be wary of Westerners pushing LGBT on them when you are openly demonizing an anti-imperialist bloc forming because it’s “homophobic”.

          Like if you don’t want LGBT rights to be associated with imperialism, stop combining these arguments together yourself

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Nope I never said gays were a western conspiracy. I said that chauvinists like you use western progressive stances on social issues to justify imperialism and to smear anti-imperialist states

              I’m more than happy to separate LGBT issues and imperialism as separate unconnected topics of discussion. It’s you who commented in an effort to fuse them together. I never “ceded the ground”, you did.

          • celestial
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            6 months ago

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            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              As a Syrian refugee of woke imperialist war with dead cousins… I was told to be nice today.

              The demonizing comes from the immediate jump to accusations of bigotry. flattening of complex cultures and context. Just because the word Russia was mentioned.

              • celestial
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                6 months ago

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                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  I get hot and bothered by casual chauvinism and western arrogance. Using what they took from us to bludgeon us. Our societies were more socially progressive until they were destroyed by the west. All progressive and secular movements in the Middle East crushed by western funded fascists. The gains of the USSR lost. Now liberals mock us and claim moral superiority because you beat us back 100 years in development

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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              3 years ago

              Code of conduct says the following:

              Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.(not relevant to this conversation)

              We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.

              We are a platform that welcomes anyone who wants to be here in good faith.

              If you got a bone to pick with someone, try to do it constructively and civilly.

                  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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                    3 years ago

                    Code of conduct says no, but it does say the following:

                    Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.(not relevant to this conversation)

                    We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.

                    Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.

                    We are a platform that welcomes anyone who wants to be here in good faith.

                    If you got a bone to pick with someone, try to do it constructively and civilly. This website isn't a political party where's Mao's "Combat Liberalism" is to be applied, it's a forum for socialists to shoot shit and talk.

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              All I know is you hear ‘China and Russia developing friendly cultural alliance’ and you immediately think “this is the homophobia of the evil East”.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Read the whole comment. They see Russia as a warrior nation willing to fight against NATO, they see it as having beautiful people and culture, desirable tourist destinations and good higher education. Nothing about admiring their homophobia.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Oh so your “China and Russia are reactionary homophobes” smear didn’t work so you are pivoting to something else. Stay on topic russophobe

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              If you hear the good news that 2 anti-imperialist nations are becoming more friendly and immediately start fretting about how it’s only because they are reactionary (without and against all evidence), that is a deep seated chauvinistic belief that needs to be rooted out

              Sorry I wasn’t polite enough when dealing with imperialist Russophobia that sounds like it’s coming out of the mouth of Hilary Clinton

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  I’m being appropriately sensitive to disguised liberal imperialist narratives being parroted by “leftists” in the west, famous for being chauvinists

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              I have no patience for people who immediately pivot to smearing non-western culture as barbaric to attack the developing friendly alliance of two anti-imperialist states.

              This is simple minded bigotry against Russians and Chinese, treating them as stupid children who are reactionaries and need to be taught by the enlightened west. It happens in left-ish places constantly as a way to derail anti-imperialist support.

              Any nation that is the victim of economic colonization and looting will be less developed and will likely be more socially reactionary - as social ideas emerge from economic realities. The west loots and plunders these nations, makes their populations ignorant and destitute and then uses that ignorance as casus belli to further attack and subjugate them as “barbarians”.

              It’s the same shit they have done to the Middle East for decades, no good communist or anti-imperialist should fall for it. They only do because of baked in Russophobia and a higher prioritization on social issues than on the primary contradiction of war and imperialism. The Western capitalists have spread far more homophobia and killed far more LGBT individuals than Russia ever has. Anyone upvoting this chauvinist should feel deep shame

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  It’s worth noting as well that the USSR was vastly more socially progressive than the west. It was not until the USSR was destroyed and looted, and the people of Russia returned to destitution and ignorance by the west, that homophobic reaction reared its head.

                  Same goes for Iran. It was much more socially progressive until the west destroyed it.

                  Now the west claims moral superiority over both and uses its social progressive stances as bludgeons to beat the nations it previously destroyed and made like this.

                  To ignore this context and immediately jump to “huh I guess the Chinese only like Russian culture because they are both reactionary bigots” without any evidence of that, is an extension of the arrogance of the west

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I have no patience

                Much like toddlers, small dogs, and annoying debate club nerds.