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    • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I understand and agree with what you're trying to say about beauty standards and attitudes toward fatness varying throughout history and across cultures.

      But also, if you're talking about the Venus of Willendorf and the other "Venuses", I feel like I should say that nobody has any actual idea what the intention behind those artifacts is, and the assumption that they're sexual simply because they depict feminine bodies is pretty sus.

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        3 years ago

        The best explanation I have heard is that it they are self portraits of women looking down at themselves. Thats why they seem to have a top down forced perspective with the tiny pointy feet and all, atleast thats what I read in an anthropology paper years ago.

        • Steve2 [any]
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          3 years ago

          The figures in that article comparing the statue and a pov from similar angle were quite convincing to me, I'm on board.

          • CrimsonSage [any]
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            3 years ago

            But if you are doing a self portrait in a world before mirrors how else are you going to do it? You are also assuming that all real art is attempting to accurately represent the world from a neutral perspective.

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            3 years ago

            They'd also felt their bodies before and used them. I don't think anyone is saying that's what they thought they looked like, just that they were showing their perspective through art.

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The assumption they are sexual ideals is because we are horny monkies and almost every artist goes through a porn phase. So we can assume historically they be horny flint knapping

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      You'd think he'd know that given that his shtick is Jungian mystical bullshit.