She's an escort and presumably to super rich clientele what with yknow, the movie. She's probably not supposed to look poor
The post says born rich looking. I don't think people who are born into money become escorts.
If you're an escort for rich people you generally are expected to also look like a rich person. Especially if you're going to a weird exclusive dinner thingy.
I honestly forgot about most of that movie almost immediately after watching it.
getting out my calipers ah yes... 6-figure parentage with 50% chance of landlord
seriously wtf the girl is dressed up to go to the fancy restaurant, she obv looks rich, but its not her fucking skull shape
americans can only understand cinematic language when it's related to burgers.
SpoilersIn the scene where she eats the cheeseburger, the chef had just announced that he was about to kill everyone at the restaurant in a ritual murder. The woman character tells the chef to make a cheeseburger to prove that he has really cooking talent and is not just a pretentious hack. The chef complies because he's a massive narcissist. The woman character is fearing for her life when she takes a bite of the cheeseburger. She takes a small bite and then asks for the burger to be taken "to go" so that she can escape from being murdered.
Would you eat a massive bite of cheeseburger when the chef just said he was going to kill you? A small bite of burger seems appropriate for the situation of the scene. Twitter discourse is so stupid.
She doesn't ask him to make her a burger in order to prove that he's a real chef and he doesn't comply because he's a narcissist, I'm kind of surprised how you could read the scene like that?
The chef is deeply unhappy with his life, where he has ended up and what he is doing. He is completely alienated from his labour, which has become feeding slop to uncaring rich assholes. The last time he felt joy and connection with his labour, was as a young man selling simple food to good folk. It was when he sold cheap cheeseburgers.
She asks him for a cheeseburger because of this, she wants to show that she "gets him" and to remind him that not all is lost. She is nervous because she is out of options and this is a huge gamble. When she asks him for the bag "to go" she is negotiating a way out within the confines of the system the chef feels trapped in.
It has nothing to do with having to prove himself, it has to do with being reminded of why he chose to serve food for a living in the first place. She is rewarded because she reconnects him with that base instinct.Edit: fixed punctuation
"Make me a burger you pathetic man"
"Yes mommy"The escort escaped by using her skilled labor. Did no one else catch that?
Yeah I get into that further down in the thread. I feel like it's pretty obvious that the movie did that, but I guess not.
Yes I have seen the scene in question, thank you for your condescension. Have you seen the rest of the movie? The whole reason she asks for a burger is because the only picture of him smiling is a hidden away photo in his home of him as a young man in a burger stand.
After the place burns down we also get a scene of her eating the burger in large mouthfuls.In this scene she says that his food is made "without love" and that she would like a cheeseburger made "with love". He then says "I will make you a very good, very traditional cheeseburger". She says "I don't think you can".
Yes, she is challenging him, pushing him. This is part of the negotiation within the confines of the system. She cannot outright say "hey, don't you think it would be nice to make me a cheeseburger?" Because the rules of the world demand a different behaviour. Saying that would "break the spell" so to speak, for the same reason that she can ask to get a burger to go, but she would not be able to ask "hey man aren't you happy I reconnected you with your love of cooking? Please let me go now."
This also couples with the fact that she is an escort. She is just as much performing her labour in that moment as he is performing his. She is playing the role of a customer in order to give him satisfaction. Wether he rekindles her love for her work as she does for him, I cannot say.As soon as she mentions a cheeseburger he is happy, but they must dance this dance in order to get it. It's not about proving he's good at cooking food - It's about enjoying cooking food, hence the "with love" instead of "tasty" or "fancy" or "perfect" or "beautiful" or any other adjective that could signify quality. He accepts the task because he wants to reconnect with cooking. Look at how he behaves thru the ordering process. It takes him back, it reminds him.
Edit: thank you for your response explaining how you got that read of the situation however. I can now understand how you could have interpreted the scene as you did. Responding with a link to the scene didn't do that, so I'm glad you followed up.
I don't know what the difference is between "she is challenging him" as you say and making him prove himself as a chef as I said. Frankly, I don't even know what point you are trying to make.
It misses the point of my post. The point of my post is that she ate the cheeseburger weird in the first burger scene because she was afraid for her life.
I explain what the difference is in the following sentence, but it's okay, we don't have to agree. I asked how you could get the read that you did and you explained it. That's what I asked for.
A small bite of burger seems appropriate for the situation of the scene. Twitter discourse is so stupid.
I'd take a big bite
She eats the rest as she watches the place burn to the ground from a safe distance
I'm fascinated by how much I've gone to bat for The Menu and Anya Taylor Joy in this thread, because I truly have no opinions about either. I liked her in Queen's Gambit, but that's all I know her from. I liked The Menu the one time I've seen it.
I guess I just really dislike media takes based on misunderstandings
The funniest part of the scene is where she says "I think my eyes were bigger than my stomach", with ATJ's big eyes looking at him. It had to be a joke right?
Would you eat a massive bite of cheeseburger when the chef just said he was going to kill you?
Considering part of what saves her is that she's showing that he can make good food that's not some pretentious deconstruction of food, and also that she's not some bougie fuck like the rest of the restaurant guests, I'd say taking a big sloppy ass greasy bite out of that fucker like she's hungover at Five Guys would have been the more appropriate move.
I think I remember her doing it like that when she was on the boat.
Yeah but wouldn't it make more sense to do that in front of the chef? Show him that he did indeed make a good ass burger and that she is enjoying it like a regular ass person? She was smart and ballsy enough to call him out on his BS I think she'd have the guts to chow down on the thing.
Well on the other hand she also has to sell the fact that she isn't actually hungry, and that shed like to get it to go.
In my experience, people who eagerly hork down half their meal are the most likely to ask for a to-go box.
No, it's cause an actor is too rich to know how to act. She can play a puritan former wife just fine, but she's too born rich to convincingly eat a hamburglar
I'm somehow not believing that knowing "how to eat cheeseburger" is a class signifier. She also finishes eating the burger pretty normally before the end credits when she is escaping on the boat. I am a huge fan of cheeseburgers myself and it looks to me that she was eating the burger pretty normally at the ending. But what do I know? I'm not a twitter burger phrenologist.
I forgot about the boat part. Yeah, she chimps down on that burg pretty hard then.
tbf has there ever been a convincing looking poor person in a big hollywood film? At least in the past like 20 or so years.
that being said Anna Taylor Joy is not beating the Buenos Aires allegations
I'd say there's been like two, who hit the rock bottom on a heroin bender and got a second chance years later, but I can't name any
She does just bite off a little bit of the burger patty and I don't think even touches the bun with her mouth.
How do you eat burgers that were as tall as that one? It looks like she was biting out the bottom half which I do too on tall burgers, then grab a second bite in the same spot to even it out. You all running around out there with snake jaws
I once filmed a commercial were I had to take a bite out of a sandwich. Around take #12 I'd eaten about 4½ sandwiches and I couldn't get myself to do more than take an itty bitty bite. That itty bitty bite was the take they decided to use for when I tore into the sandwich.
I'm a normal person who eats sandwiches in a normal way, but not in that one take.Someone else posted it, but considering the circumstances, it makes perfect sense that she isn't just hauling into that burger. She ate some, while probably feeling not too hungry Omani very pressured cause of the massacre committed by the dude giving her the burger. She took a bite and got the hell out as fast as possible.
She eats it normally though? She's chilling on a boat and noms it like you do
I have bad news for you, "comrade"
sike, haven't nor will see that movie, or movies in general
Good, movies are revisionist bourgeois decadence. The only good entertainment is watching grass grow
grass
Not wheat? Or rye? Are you perchance a kulak letting his fields lay fallow to deny others produce?
So what I've gathered from this thread is that the film apparently wasn't about cooking people and turning them into burgers? Weird ass marketing then, glad I didn't see it.
It was about pretentious rich assholes being murdered by the fancy chefs who serve them because the chefs come to realize that the prestige/high pay/etc isn't worth having to deal with the bourgeois. Spoilers for the entire movie.
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In particular, the head chef who has a very prestigious position cooking food for the rich became so alienated that he mass murders the latest group of the ultra-wealthy who patronize his restaurant. He lets the main character live because she isn't ultra-rich, just an escort who was hired to be some rich foodie guy's date. The pivotal scene of the movie is when she asks for just a normal cheeseburger because the main course of "seven types of foam served on a log" wasn't actually food.
Its not "just" the latest group - he specifically picks this group of people, because they each represent part of what he has come to hate in his customers.
Maybe? I hadn't thought of that theme, but I guess it could do. I was moreso just thinking of the financebros, the wealthy couple that cannot even name a single dish they've been served, the actor that made a bad movie, the snobby food critic and her enabler and fucking Tyler
You think so? I really wanted to like it but felt like it fell a bit short on its own premise. Very common Hollywood problem though
I think you're right too. I was expecting the movie to suck and was surprised by it. I'm not sure what it could have done differently, but I do see what you mean. It feels like it's missing one last punch or something.
Honestly I may have just had too high of hopes for it. Usually I'd temper expectations for a movie like this but maybe didn't do that for The Menu.
Speaking of having low expectations, that really seems like the best strategy for enjoying media made for broad audiences. I remember seeing M Night's Avatar movie and being pleasantly surprised by it after setting expectations somewhere below the ground
Burger (Hamburger), Burghur (English cognate for Bourgeois),and Bourgeois are all doublets of the same word.
Hello, I just finished watching the movie, can we continue the discourse?
Well it was just about okay if you were wonderin'
I have nothing else to say about this topic.
