From experience, Reddit modteams grow into some of the most aggressively bullshit behaviour that needs to be constantly checked even in leftist modteams, something about reddit just results in moderators eventually adopting this pattern of aggressively bullshit confidently incorrect behaviour.
The shitty liberal modteams never have any self awareness for it and you're shit out of luck when it's a topmod that behaves this way.
Anyway no surprises that liberals are banning leftists for pointing out they're promoting nazis.
I have not experienced the same problem when moderating regular forums, discord or older teamspeak servers. I can't speak for the stackoverflow types of sites though no experience there. I've seen different problems on all of them though, the platforms definitely seem to affect the way teams behave in different ways.
I know that the labor power and organizational base is just not there at the moment, but I would love to see what a purpose-built social media platform for communist orgs would look like
I think we'd start from a goal-oriented point of view. What would the purpose of it be, there's several use cases and the initial use would shape its future.
One thing that is very lacking in corporate social media is the building of individual relationships. Private one-on-ones don’t create public content to be monetized, so they’re kind of just… there. But I think there’s a lot more structure that could be applied to it. Making social maps more explicit and editable by an organizing committee. Allowing people to pick up and record information about relationships and assign themselves relationships to grow.
This sounds more like you're describing a function than a goal?
The functions required by the site would be informed by the goal, the starting point for considering and designing out the entire project is therefore not the function but "What is this trying to do?"
I'm not surprised I was banned over it but the fact they are aggressively locking any comment of such a nature is pretty wild.
Libs be all-in on ignoring nazism wherever it is inconvenient to them. Fingers in ears "LALALALALALALA".
They behave exactly as a nazi propagandist would when they are in this mindset, they become indistinguishable from them. If a literal nazi ran the subreddit, they would do the same actions.
I was a mod on a left-lib subreddit for a few years and, god, I couldn't explain why, but this is definitely true. I'm really embarassed about those times, looking back.
From the stickied comment:
No one here is pro-Nazi. From here on out, anyone calling people Nazis in comments will be banned from the subreddit indefinitely.
"We're totally not pro-Nazi, but we're going to protect Nazis by banning anyone who calls them out."
No one in this completely open forum on a site that has a near-monopoly on forums, including among Nazis, is a Nazi.
Would be really funny to bully that mod off of reddit.
Man unemployment is making me petty AF
What’s their @?
This is what bullying them on different subreddits is for.
But most mods never go as themselves on subreddits they aren’t in charge of.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AccidentalRenaissance/comments/uu3v9v/hope_and_lamentation/
LOL THEY LOCKED IT
And stickied a big confidently incorrect explanation as to how it's only a Ukrainian military patch without investigating its origins. It is directly descended from the Galician forces of ww2, who were all nazis and committed horrific crimes, and everyone in the military knows exactly what it symbolises. They are PROUD of that cultural history.
"This nazi symbol isn't nazi because it's used by the Ukrainian military and the media told us there's no nazi problem in the Ukrainian military." is incredible liberal logic and shows just how brainwormed they are.
They will concede on Azov and only Azov and absolutely no other part of Ukraine, its military or structure has any nazi problem whatsoever that's all just disinformation!
Tell that to the guy in this very thread saying it's not a Nazi patch lol
Also the picture is from Mariupol which is definitely Azov
I can't, they ban literally everyone that attempts to educate them. They do not want to learn. I was instabanned for messaging them about it at all. They will ban literally everyone that knows more than they do.
What you expect that a nation with a past involving the holocaust should have its use of previous symbols that Ukrainian Nazis used questioned or be off limits? But what if a German militant group wants to use the swastika in its original form and connotations?
Yeah I know surprised me as well.
I went over their posts though and they've got some real sus stuff
They posted a better picture. It's a crowned lion. The Nazi patch has a lion with no crown on, but three crowns around it. It belongs to some Ukrainian mechanized unit that goes back to the Soviet era. It resembles the Nazi patch, but is not the Nazi patch.
Sometimes you get a false positive.
It was coopted during ww2 by the nazis. The Soviets ceased using the lion post ww2 because of this, the lion only returned after the soviets and its existence is all about historical pride of what western ukraine did in that period.
Heraldry is pedantic in the extreme. Small details matter. The Nazi symbol is not a crowned lion. It's a lion surrounded by three crowns. I'm not willing to shoot the guy over this unless there's other corroborating evidence. I'll accept he's a Ukrainian nationalist but I'd need something else to suggest he's a Nazi.
You ever hear of a dog whistle, Frank? You must be aware of the concept. It's when you do something that nobody else recognizes as a signal apart from the intended audience. Plausible deniability is the point.
If they wanted everyone to know they'd just wear swastikas. Do you think it's a complete coincidence that thousands of white nationalists from around the entire world have been going to Ukraine for years?
Yes. I am aware of what a dog whistle is. The Rewhatever the fuck Lion has been a symbol of the region for over a thousand years. There are numerous variations. This is not the Nazi variation. This isn't like the Sonnenrad, or the Wolfsangle, or the life and death runes, or a million other little Nazi tricks. This is a Ukrainian mechanized infantry brigade that's been using the symbol for about thirty years since it's an ancient symbol representing the region where they are from. And unless you have some kind of evidence that there is more going on here, that this entire brigade is composed of Nazis instead of normal Western Ukrainians, you're not going to convince me to throw this guy up against a wall and shoot him in the head.
Posted this in the other thread:
If the power-tripping nerd Reddit mod isn’t talking out of his ass, that patch is the insignia for the 24th Mechanized Brigade, whose predecessors fought under the Soviets against the Nazis.
They didn’t fight alongside Nazis until 2014, in the wake of Euromaidan. They have been shelling Donbas ever since.
:shrug-outta-hecks:
Edit: lmao, you linked that. Christ, this site sometimes.
lol "No one else spoke up about the nazi patch that we banned you for speaking up about"
You know why I know this is an alt account? Because literally no one else even noticed the patch
I don't follow this logic.
New conspiracy theory: only one person on earth supports Ukraine and they run hundreds of millions of sock puppet accounts.
You see, the second person to call out Nazis in Ukraine bust be a scokpuppet/russian bot
The eagerness with which liberals go to bat for literal Nazis is serious doomer fuel
:reddit-logo: mods are ridiculous. only a second account could notice Nazi imagery, first accounts aren't capable of such wizardry
OOC, why do you say your account has 200K karma when it has 258 karma?
Like your post was good and the lib who banned you is a paranoid nazi apologist, but I almost responded to the mod quoting that and thought I should double-check.
That was the first account to comment about the Azov patch, OPS account (I don't know his username) was the SECOND and was banned for being a "sock puppet" of the first.
lmao, apparently were the same person! gonna need our bank acct info now for real tho.
eta: Im the other guy they think you are
https://i.imgur.com/HlSsvAS.png
I've gotten a lot better since the Chapo ban but someone linked this thread here and I couldn't help myself.
