• Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    From experience, Reddit modteams grow into some of the most aggressively bullshit behaviour that needs to be constantly checked even in leftist modteams, something about reddit just results in moderators eventually adopting this pattern of aggressively bullshit confidently incorrect behaviour.

    The shitty liberal modteams never have any self awareness for it and you're shit out of luck when it's a topmod that behaves this way.

    Anyway no surprises that liberals are banning leftists for pointing out they're promoting nazis.

    • KiaKaha [he/him]M
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      2 years ago

      reddit modteams

      Y-yeah. It’s just a reddit problem.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I have not experienced the same problem when moderating regular forums, discord or older teamspeak servers. I can't speak for the stackoverflow types of sites though no experience there. I've seen different problems on all of them though, the platforms definitely seem to affect the way teams behave in different ways.

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I know that the labor power and organizational base is just not there at the moment, but I would love to see what a purpose-built social media platform for communist orgs would look like

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            I think we'd start from a goal-oriented point of view. What would the purpose of it be, there's several use cases and the initial use would shape its future.

            • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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              One thing that is very lacking in corporate social media is the building of individual relationships. Private one-on-ones don’t create public content to be monetized, so they’re kind of just… there. But I think there’s a lot more structure that could be applied to it. Making social maps more explicit and editable by an organizing committee. Allowing people to pick up and record information about relationships and assign themselves relationships to grow.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                This sounds more like you're describing a function than a goal?

                The functions required by the site would be informed by the goal, the starting point for considering and designing out the entire project is therefore not the function but "What is this trying to do?"

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I'm not surprised I was banned over it but the fact they are aggressively locking any comment of such a nature is pretty wild.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Libs be all-in on ignoring nazism wherever it is inconvenient to them. Fingers in ears "LALALALALALALA".

        They behave exactly as a nazi propagandist would when they are in this mindset, they become indistinguishable from them. If a literal nazi ran the subreddit, they would do the same actions.

    • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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      2 years ago

      I was a mod on a left-lib subreddit for a few years and, god, I couldn't explain why, but this is definitely true. I'm really embarassed about those times, looking back.

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    From the stickied comment:

    No one here is pro-Nazi. From here on out, anyone calling people Nazis in comments will be banned from the subreddit indefinitely.

    "We're totally not pro-Nazi, but we're going to protect Nazis by banning anyone who calls them out."

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      No one in this completely open forum on a site that has a near-monopoly on forums, including among Nazis, is a Nazi.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    wow what a convenient excuse to ban literally any dissent

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Would be really funny to bully that mod off of reddit.

      Man unemployment is making me petty AF

      • Deadend [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        What’s their @?

        This is what bullying them on different subreddits is for.

        But most mods never go as themselves on subreddits they aren’t in charge of.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      https://www.reddit.com/r/AccidentalRenaissance/comments/uu3v9v/hope_and_lamentation/

      LOL THEY LOCKED IT

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        And stickied a big confidently incorrect explanation as to how it's only a Ukrainian military patch without investigating its origins. It is directly descended from the Galician forces of ww2, who were all nazis and committed horrific crimes, and everyone in the military knows exactly what it symbolises. They are PROUD of that cultural history.

        "This nazi symbol isn't nazi because it's used by the Ukrainian military and the media told us there's no nazi problem in the Ukrainian military." is incredible liberal logic and shows just how brainwormed they are.

        They will concede on Azov and only Azov and absolutely no other part of Ukraine, its military or structure has any nazi problem whatsoever that's all just disinformation!

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Tell that to the guy in this very thread saying it's not a Nazi patch lol

          Also the picture is from Mariupol which is definitely Azov

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          They posted a better picture. It's a crowned lion. The Nazi patch has a lion with no crown on, but three crowns around it. It belongs to some Ukrainian mechanized unit that goes back to the Soviet era. It resembles the Nazi patch, but is not the Nazi patch.

          Sometimes you get a false positive.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            It was coopted during ww2 by the nazis. The Soviets ceased using the lion post ww2 because of this, the lion only returned after the soviets and its existence is all about historical pride of what western ukraine did in that period.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Heraldry is pedantic in the extreme. Small details matter. The Nazi symbol is not a crowned lion. It's a lion surrounded by three crowns. I'm not willing to shoot the guy over this unless there's other corroborating evidence. I'll accept he's a Ukrainian nationalist but I'd need something else to suggest he's a Nazi.

              • D3FNC [any]
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                2 years ago

                You ever hear of a dog whistle, Frank? You must be aware of the concept. It's when you do something that nobody else recognizes as a signal apart from the intended audience. Plausible deniability is the point.

                If they wanted everyone to know they'd just wear swastikas. Do you think it's a complete coincidence that thousands of white nationalists from around the entire world have been going to Ukraine for years?

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Yes. I am aware of what a dog whistle is. The Rewhatever the fuck Lion has been a symbol of the region for over a thousand years. There are numerous variations. This is not the Nazi variation. This isn't like the Sonnenrad, or the Wolfsangle, or the life and death runes, or a million other little Nazi tricks. This is a Ukrainian mechanized infantry brigade that's been using the symbol for about thirty years since it's an ancient symbol representing the region where they are from. And unless you have some kind of evidence that there is more going on here, that this entire brigade is composed of Nazis instead of normal Western Ukrainians, you're not going to convince me to throw this guy up against a wall and shoot him in the head.

              • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Posted this in the other thread:

                If the power-tripping nerd Reddit mod isn’t talking out of his ass, that patch is the insignia for the 24th Mechanized Brigade, whose predecessors fought under the Soviets against the Nazis.

                They didn’t fight alongside Nazis until 2014, in the wake of Euromaidan. They have been shelling Donbas ever since.

                :shrug-outta-hecks:

                Edit: lmao, you linked that. Christ, this site sometimes.

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    You know why I know this is an alt account? Because literally no one else even noticed the patch

    I don't follow this logic.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      New conspiracy theory: only one person on earth supports Ukraine and they run hundreds of millions of sock puppet accounts.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      You see, the second person to call out Nazis in Ukraine bust be a scokpuppet/russian bot

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The eagerness with which liberals go to bat for literal Nazis is serious doomer fuel

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If a herd of bazinga brains don't notice or acknowledge something, that means it's untrue! :so-true:

  • gremlin [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    only one troll is allowed to recognize our HEROES are actually nazis

  • VHS [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :reddit-logo: mods are ridiculous. only a second account could notice Nazi imagery, first accounts aren't capable of such wizardry

  • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    lmao, apparently were the same person! gonna need our bank acct info now for real tho.

    eta: Im the other guy they think you are

    https://i.imgur.com/HlSsvAS.png