I hate this motherfucker so much.

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Disagree. The US's current downfall is the result of decades of deregulation and hyper-neoliberalism reaching its logical end point, and while the EU are plagued by neoliberalism as well, it's nowhere near as bad anywhere here. European countries still have healthcare, labor laws and regulations in place, they have nowhere near the same police/military spending, and that will not all just change within 5 years.

    The US have been on this exact course for decades, and while many European countries are on the same course, they're advancing at a much slower pace. Also, European countries are quite different from one another.

    • Foolio [any]
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      3 years ago

      EU is speed-running the neoliberal collapse tho. The German Greens are basically just a wing of the US Democratic Party, and France + the UK (yeah technically not EU whatever) have a political culture that's even more crazy-RW than the US. I'd argue they're moving faster than the US did.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        The US isn't collapsing because of racism. The US is collapsing because it squeezed every cent out of the workers it could, the people are dying because they can't afford healthcare and have no sick leave, and they're going on murderous rampages because they live in a hyper-individualist dystopia that tells you that if you're at the bottom it's your fault, nobody's coming to help you and go fuck yourself. Because people work 3 jobs but can't afford rent, or even the appliance fees to look at potential rental homes.

        None of this is happening in Europe at a remotely comparable scale. The German Greens are socially comparable to the US Dems, but economically they are way left of them. They're both neoliberal and both shit, but they're like saying AOC and Joe Manchin are the same.

        France is racist as hell, but they have stable labor laws. If you break your leg in France, that's not all your savings gone in an instant. You have paid maternity leave, up to 30 paid vacation days a year and if you're sick you get paid to stay the fuck home.

        This is why Finland, which is ranked 10th globally in gun ownership per capita, had only 2 mass shootings between 2010-2020 in which a grand total of 4 people died. Because the Finnish workers aren't ground into fucking dust like Americans are, because they actually get to live a life with at least some dignity and aren't systematically sacrificed for the magic line.

        If you think France is anywhere near the absolute capitalist perversion that the United States is, you need to get your head checked. Is it a country full of racist shitheads? Yes, absolutely. But racism doesn't cause the collapse of an empire.

        The US have flourished while they were just as, if not more racist than they are now, but you know what was different? Buying a home costed less than a 10th of what it does now. People had at least the illusion that there was a future. That is gone now, you have to work 3 jobs until you're 85 or until you get shot by a mass shooter or a cop. That's why the US are crumbling and why France, as shit as Macron is, will be fine.

        • Foolio [any]
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          3 years ago

          All of those protections that Europe has are going Bye Bye, at a rapid pace. And Europe is boned because they are the US's vassal, and the US will save itself before it saves them. They are still trying to cut off the Russian gas, for the privilege of paying the US and our close friends even more money!

          • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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            3 years ago

            All of those protections that Europe has are going Bye Bye, at a rapid pace.

            No, they're not. I don't know what to tell you, you're just making this up. Is this a bit?