So immediately as soon as I saw this post, I received a notification from my news app saying that the photo of the “cross dresser” is actually just an irrelevant trans woman. https://apple.news/AOmiM1dMmR4e6gW_uhzOuVA
Rep. Paul Gosar, an Arizona Republican, said of the shooter in a since-deleted tweet, “It’s a transsexual leftist illegal alien named Salvatore Ramos.”
Illegal alien who had legal access to one of the most expensive brands of AR15s :very-smart:
Wasn’t there a huge moral panic about serial killers being trans back in the day? IIRC, there were like maybe 2 serial killers who identified as a woman while the others simply had fetishes about women’s clothing but ultimately identified as men.
Anyway, very cool that 4chan continues to influence politics. If Democrats actually cared about “democracy,” or at least maintaining the illusion of it, they’d shut down 4chan and pressure the Japanese to imprison the owner or something extreme like that. But no, they’re fucking losers who can’t think of anything beyond a paycheck.
Entertainment has no effect on entertainment consumers, unlike advertising which is totally different somehow. 4chan has numerous boards and many of them are only partially infested with fascists. Everything 4chan does is for irony purposes and you fell for the joke by being triggered by ironic fascism. Politics always flows downstream to culture, no exceptions. Never criticize the treats. :galaxy-brain:
I used to be 100% on the “video games don’t cause violence” train, and I still mostly am. But now my opinions are more nuanced. They definitely influence their consumers. Maybe not to kill, but to think in certain ways that perhaps make them apathetic to certain issues.
They might shut down 4chan soon because /chug/ is winning the civil war against /uhg/
Please put me down for knowing this. I like to observe these cretins in their natural habitat.
The anti-west, anti-NATO reactionaries and nationalists seem to slowly be taking over against the pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine, pro-Azov Nazis and western chauvinists who initially dominated discussions. Russia might actually be doing psy-ops there, the west certainly is despite losing their grip.
Basically the Putinists and non-western rightoids are taking over and supporting Putin’s war might be the final line they cross to get banned. CP, Nazism, many many crimes - all can be forgiven by the west. But I don’t know if the west will tolerate epic based Putinism on a major heavily trafficked website
Comfy Happenings Ukraine General vs. Ukraine Happenings General.
There was one megathread originally about the “happening” (event) in Ukraine. It devolved into flaming and infighting and broke into 2 competing megathreads that raided each other constantly, chug and ugh. They are on threads ~3500 and ~2000 respectively. Threads hit a maximum size limit and you have to make a new thread.
Chug felt the war was “comfy” and “kino” and supported based Putin in his quest against “globohomo” (basically another snarl term for the neoliberal world order, the globalists, the purveyors of social justice, etc).
Ugh hates evil asiatic Putin and his Muslim hordes. They believe in white western supremacy. They support Azov and NATO and want Europe to be supreme but also more rightwing and reactionary.
Those are you 2 flavors of evil weirdo, and the chugs are clearly winning and becoming more and more prominent in other threads. Rampant homophobia, antisemitism, etc on both sides obviously.
Y'know what, why do we curse ourselves with all this hyperonline shit.
I should really log off to read some more theory, and only log in again after reading a few books. It would be a much more productive use of my time. But I lack the self discipline lol.
Basically yep, or fighting over who they interpret that way. They read a lot of things into leaders that aren’t there, accusing each other of being controlled by Jews or whatever
Wasn’t there a huge moral panic about serial killers being trans back in the day?
Specifically male mentally ill cross dressers. They would not have differentiated between that and being trans at that point in time, but I will absolutely make the distinction now. As far as I can tell, the trope is all based on a single killer who neither fit the typical profile of a serial killer nor seemed to crossdress for gender identity reasons. Hard to say posthumously, but the evidence that he was trans is flimsy at best. His name was Ed Gein.
CW murder, gore
He “only” murdered 3 people, which is a lot, but not a lot compared to most serial killers and not a lot compared to the number of bodies he dug up and used for taxidermy and sewing materials. When they caught him, his apartment was in squalor, aside from his mother’s bedroom, which hadn’t been disturbed since she died.
The narratives that were built around him really gained legs in movies, though, and the cross dressing aspect was played up. Buffalo Bill, Leatherface, and Norman Bates were some of the most infamous fictional characters based off of him. These characters played up the cross dressing as sexual deviancy. And that let them integrate fears from other serial killers who happened to be queer in some way. They could kind of throw it all into one basket and act like it was causal and typical. Jeffrey Dahner and John Wayne Gacey come to mind.
John Wayne Gacey in particular called himself bisexual. He was married to a woman with children and stated that he’d never had romantic feelings for men. His victims were exclusively men/boys under the age of 25, many of which were gay and had run away from home. I’ve seen arguments that that pattern was more based around these boys being from a vulnerable population, which is a reasonable thing to point out.
So yeah the moral panic was constructed whole cloth by movies who understood neither queerness nor serial killers and continues to this day with books like JK Rowling’s adult mystery series.
So immediately as soon as I saw this post, I received a notification from my news app saying that the photo of the “cross dresser” is actually just an irrelevant trans woman.
Yeah, channers took her photos from reddit. She later posted another photo saying it wasn't her because the shooter is dead and she is not.
So immediately as soon as I saw this post, I received a notification from my news app saying that the photo of the “cross dresser” is actually just an irrelevant trans woman. https://apple.news/AOmiM1dMmR4e6gW_uhzOuVA
Illegal alien who had legal access to one of the most expensive brands of AR15s :very-smart:
Wasn’t there a huge moral panic about serial killers being trans back in the day? IIRC, there were like maybe 2 serial killers who identified as a woman while the others simply had fetishes about women’s clothing but ultimately identified as men.
Anyway, very cool that 4chan continues to influence politics. If Democrats actually cared about “democracy,” or at least maintaining the illusion of it, they’d shut down 4chan and pressure the Japanese to imprison the owner or something extreme like that. But no, they’re fucking losers who can’t think of anything beyond a paycheck.
Too chad of a move to do, so obvs itll never happen
Entertainment has no effect on entertainment consumers, unlike advertising which is totally different somehow. 4chan has numerous boards and many of them are only partially infested with fascists. Everything 4chan does is for irony purposes and you fell for the joke by being triggered by ironic fascism. Politics always flows downstream to culture, no exceptions. Never criticize the treats. :galaxy-brain:
I used to be 100% on the “video games don’t cause violence” train, and I still mostly am. But now my opinions are more nuanced. They definitely influence their consumers. Maybe not to kill, but to think in certain ways that perhaps make them apathetic to certain issues.
For example the Call of Duty series is blatant propaganda
They might shut down 4chan soon because /chug/ is winning the civil war against /uhg/
Please put me down for knowing this. I like to observe these cretins in their natural habitat.
The anti-west, anti-NATO reactionaries and nationalists seem to slowly be taking over against the pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine, pro-Azov Nazis and western chauvinists who initially dominated discussions. Russia might actually be doing psy-ops there, the west certainly is despite losing their grip.
Basically the Putinists and non-western rightoids are taking over and supporting Putin’s war might be the final line they cross to get banned. CP, Nazism, many many crimes - all can be forgiven by the west. But I don’t know if the west will tolerate epic based Putinism on a major heavily trafficked website
who what
Comfy Happenings Ukraine General vs. Ukraine Happenings General.
There was one megathread originally about the “happening” (event) in Ukraine. It devolved into flaming and infighting and broke into 2 competing megathreads that raided each other constantly, chug and ugh. They are on threads ~3500 and ~2000 respectively. Threads hit a maximum size limit and you have to make a new thread.
Chug felt the war was “comfy” and “kino” and supported based Putin in his quest against “globohomo” (basically another snarl term for the neoliberal world order, the globalists, the purveyors of social justice, etc).
Ugh hates evil asiatic Putin and his Muslim hordes. They believe in white western supremacy. They support Azov and NATO and want Europe to be supreme but also more rightwing and reactionary.
Those are you 2 flavors of evil weirdo, and the chugs are clearly winning and becoming more and more prominent in other threads. Rampant homophobia, antisemitism, etc on both sides obviously.
Why do you curse yourself with this knowledge.
Y'know what, why do we curse ourselves with all this hyperonline shit.
I should really log off to read some more theory, and only log in again after reading a few books. It would be a much more productive use of my time. But I lack the self discipline lol.
Yea it’s not good or healthy, it’s a rot metastasizing on the internet.
so this is just fascist infighting over who they perceive as the fascister fascist?
Basically yep, or fighting over who they interpret that way. They read a lot of things into leaders that aren’t there, accusing each other of being controlled by Jews or whatever
I imagine that most fascist infighting comes down to who they perceive as being controlled by the jews.
Specifically male mentally ill cross dressers. They would not have differentiated between that and being trans at that point in time, but I will absolutely make the distinction now. As far as I can tell, the trope is all based on a single killer who neither fit the typical profile of a serial killer nor seemed to crossdress for gender identity reasons. Hard to say posthumously, but the evidence that he was trans is flimsy at best. His name was Ed Gein.
CW murder, gore
He “only” murdered 3 people, which is a lot, but not a lot compared to most serial killers and not a lot compared to the number of bodies he dug up and used for taxidermy and sewing materials. When they caught him, his apartment was in squalor, aside from his mother’s bedroom, which hadn’t been disturbed since she died.
The narratives that were built around him really gained legs in movies, though, and the cross dressing aspect was played up. Buffalo Bill, Leatherface, and Norman Bates were some of the most infamous fictional characters based off of him. These characters played up the cross dressing as sexual deviancy. And that let them integrate fears from other serial killers who happened to be queer in some way. They could kind of throw it all into one basket and act like it was causal and typical. Jeffrey Dahner and John Wayne Gacey come to mind.
John Wayne Gacey in particular called himself bisexual. He was married to a woman with children and stated that he’d never had romantic feelings for men. His victims were exclusively men/boys under the age of 25, many of which were gay and had run away from home. I’ve seen arguments that that pattern was more based around these boys being from a vulnerable population, which is a reasonable thing to point out.
So yeah the moral panic was constructed whole cloth by movies who understood neither queerness nor serial killers and continues to this day with books like JK Rowling’s adult mystery series.
Basically the plot of Silence of the Lambs
Yeah, channers took her photos from reddit. She later posted another photo saying it wasn't her because the shooter is dead and she is not.