Seriously. How to we get that hell hole removed from the web.

  • anadyr [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I cannot be convinced that 4chan isn't an op.

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      2 years ago

      It is and it isn't, IMO. What I mean is that I'm fairly confident it arose naturally, but there is no way an alphabet agency could resist the opportunity to take advantage of a community full of terminally online, turbovirgin nihilists.

      When /pol/ became a thing, that's when I think most of the organic culture (which was awful to begin with) devolved into its current state. I believe that is when 4chan transformed from an uncomfortable experiment in anonymity to a grooming center for right-wing terrorism.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The problem was that /pol/ was supposed to contain them to that board, but much like a prison environment, mostly just got all of them together in one easy place. They should have made it invisible like /trash/, but ya know, furries are worse than nazis according to the boards.

      • anadyr [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah that's what I was thinking too. I mean think of how easy it must be to be a fed. Just hire some PR firm for 20 million (ideally a firm that you and your fed buddies are invested in) to spam the site endlessly with whatever you want. That's how those stupid wojack memes were started I'm pretty sure - literally just spammed by the same dude over and over until they were just accepted by the community and they spread it to the rest of the internet.

        Also the fact that m00t went to work for fucking Google after leaving 4chan :thonk:

        • Ideology [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          It's way easier to use cybernetic social control methods on the internet, basically by design, due to the way computers and networks are organized under hierarchal systems that privilege "trusted" entities like DNS servers and T1 Lines. There are beamsplitters in T1 facilities that can be used for wiretapping, as well as massive datacenters that systematically analyze unencrypted data and encrypted metadata in order to research social/behavior patterns among groups and individuals of interest online.

          Also Tor was developed and is partially maintained by the US govt. They allowed civilian users onto the system because it obfuscates their own participation.

          Edit: Wikipedia

          The Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) of the U.S. Department of Defense awarded contracts in 1969 for the development of the ARPANET project, directed by Robert Taylor and managed by Lawrence Roberts. ARPANET adopted the packet switching technology proposed by Davies and Baran, underpinned by mathematical work in the early 1970s by Leonard Kleinrock at UCLA.

            • Ideology [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Because we've been habituated to using the internet to alleviate alienation and communists saturate the west about as densely as the active ingredients in a homeopathic remedy.

    • throwaway_159246837 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      White nationalist recruiters are active on 4chan. They know how to be manipulative and to "one step at a time" a gullible mark toward some nazi position. They also post a lot of threads meant to prime people. A lot of the "BBC" threads are posted by them, for example. In threads like those it's pretty easy to provoke a response from the OP revealing their motives.