There is a lot of answers but if I'd say just one it would be rejecting the current institutional power. At least right now in our time period. Fully rejecting the imperial state, no matter how much they potentially benefit from it seems like a solid transition

we are all lib so let's not gatekeep what leftist™️ actually is. I guarantee you were a lib once too(still are, but once too.)

  • leftofthat [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    People are giving examples but generally you need to push through the first firm contradiction of capitalism, whatever that might be for someone. Maybe it's something dealing with our ability and unwillingness to house the homeless.

    The point is that, once that have that contradiction resolved or even just in mind, they will begin becoming frustrated with seeing libs ignore it, constantly. They will start seeing contradictions in more places and be more open to leftist analysis

    • ElChango [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      you need to push through the first firm contradiction of capitalism

      This cannot be overstated. If you support capitalism in any form or function, you are not capable of truly seeing the systemic damage it is causing around the world. Capitalism is the root cause of our suffering.

      When I tried to make this point, repeatedly, in an /antiwork thread, I was constantly met with "yes but have yuo considered CAPITALISM GOOD and YOU TANKIE BAD?"

      I know better than to argue with :reddit-logo: but I was hoping the message might get through to someone

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        :rosa-salute:

        For me, sticking around on Radlib subs back in the day, seeing "Tankies" getting downvoted but none of their arguments concretely addressed helped the seed of doubt in my mind to sprout. It may not be much but it adds up. It's why I don't want to fully give up on :reddit-logo: even though I find myself taking breaks often for mental health's sake.

        • ElChango [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I find myself taking breaks often for mental health’s sake.

          That's the trick. Taking breaks from that hellsite has significantly improved my mental health. Additionally, I have curated my :reddit-logo: feed so that I'm not exposed constantly to the worst lib takes, and if I am, it's only to roast them for being the dipshits that they are

      • leftofthat [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I gotta say I've only had it work once (on my wife) and it took so long that I would never even dip my toes into trying to talk to someone on :reddit-logo: ever again. And I used to tolerate discussing atheism with anonymous folks (I know)

        But I will continue getting my friends there and, hopefully someday, my community :sicko-biker: