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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The Biden administration is preparing to step up the kind of weaponry it is offering Ukraine by sending advanced, long-range rocket systems that are now the top request from Ukrainian officials, multiple officials say.

    Senior Ukrainian officials, including President Volodymyr Zelensky, have pleaded in recent weeks for the US and its allies to provide the Multiple Launch Rocket System, or MLRS. The US-made weapon systems can fire a barrage of rockets hundreds of kilometers — much farther than any of the systems Ukraine already has — which the Ukrainians argue could be a gamechanger in their war against Russia.

    It's this going to be like with the other stuff the yanks have sent, isn't it? The stuff that actually reaches the front will be operated by conscripts without sufficient training to use them properly and without the necessary logistical support to keep them supplied and maintained.

    • NonWonderDog [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The American MLRS isn't any better than (and is probably worse than) Russian rocket artillery, and Ukraine had plenty of that at the beginning of the war. Much of it was destroyed by Russian counter-battery fire, cruise missiles, tactical ballistic missiles, etc.

      The shipment they're talking about might not even fully replace the lost rocket artillery, and it has training requirements and multiple-thousand-mile supply lines for ammo. It's not going to turn the tide.

      • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        It's easily worse.

        We don't even have that many of them in the USA armed forces. And we barely know how to use them.

        Russia has surpassed us on almost every level in war fare.
        They are locating m777 howitzer battalions the ukrainians are using through sound signature alone.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yes, and the final frontier will be planes, which the US itself won't send because it would take way too long to train Ukrainians with (and you don't wanna put your planes into a near-peer war and risk them being exposed as being useless, in a similar sense to how navies are now useless against hypersonic missiles and to a lesser extent drones). And when the war is over, that'll be the thing that the media latches onto.

      We'll see a fucking Forbes article by David Axe with the headline "If The United States Had Sent F-22s To Ukraine, They Would Still Have All Their Territory." after the war is done and the media does a victory lap because Russia lost because they didn't take Kiev and a trillion Russian soldiers died and "only" took 4+ oblasts and ~25% of the territory from Ukraine. There always has to be another Thing We Could/Should Have Done, because the admission that Russia was actually strong enough to destroy Ukraine and take their territory is too much now. Russians have been utterly dehumanized, and what does it mean if you can't even beat somebody you deem to be subhuman?

      It's essentially what the Nazis would have had to contend with if they somehow remained the dominant political force and stayed as the government in Germany after they lost the WW2 against the Soviets. That contradiction has to be answered somehow. Hell, that contradiction was part of why the Nazis achieved power in the first place, only after WW1. To be "stabbed in the back", you need somebody to accuse of stabbing you in the back, and that'll be the US government withholding planes for liberal bluecheck Americans coming to terms with the coming reality in post-war Ukraine.

    • Fartster [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      They will be operated by us special forces who make sure they aren't fired into Russia and then peace out.