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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SoyViking [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    🇨🇿😁 In the shops of Prague began to hang signs "Ukrainians are not allowed to enter."

    Vendors and managers say they are fed up with the constant theft and appalling behavior of the refugees.

    Nature is healing! Westoids are becoming revoltingly racist to refugees again.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    Putin says he’s raising the minimum wage and pensions in Russia by 10% to counter inflation

    Putin does more for the people than my free liberal-democratic GoodCountry government does.

    :doomer:

    • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      2 years ago

      in autocracy you cant change the leader but he can change the policy , in democracy you can change the Leaders but they cannot change policy...

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
        ·
        2 years ago

        thought the soviet union failed because they cared about people too much

        I doubt he actually thinks that, it's just a convenient propaganda line. Anyone can tell that the USSR failed because Gorbachev actively flushed it down the toilet.

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
            ·
            2 years ago

            :shrug-outta-hecks: It's also possible that Putin is a dumbass idiot and actually thinks that if the USSR was just meaner to its civilians it would still be here.

            • SoyViking [he/him]
              ·
              2 years ago

              Putin doesn't strike me as a dumbass though. He's not a nice person who believes in good stuff but he comes off as intelligent and perceptive.

                • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
                  ·
                  2 years ago

                  All you have to do is see reality for what it is. That's all you have to do.

                  Putin saw what NATO was doing, took the chance, and very likely saw that Europe was dependent on Russia despite all the rhetoric otherwise.

                  US media just prints stories saying "Putin is dying of cancer and a bad man" because if they don't get a supervillain origin story then they might have to contend with reality for once in their lives.

                  Just look at the pushback against Mr Realpolitik himself, Henry Kissinger, when he said a more stable world is one where Ukraine just cedes some territory in exchange for peace.

                  People go nuts because "bad guys" are supposed to be punished. There's supposed to be consequences but the reality is that wielding power means there are no consequences, and Russia wields more power than the West would like to realise.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
    ·
    2 years ago

    Russia and China reportedly veto'd increased sanctions on the DPRK in the UN Security Council.

    :sicko-wholesome:

  • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
    ·
    2 years ago

    "As of today, the aggressor conducts intensified fire along the whole line of contact and the positions of our forces in the Donetsk operational region. The enemy uses tactical rocket systems, aviation and artillery," Hanna Maliar [Ukraine's deputy defence minister] says.

    "The situation is difficult and there are signs of escalation. The enemy has used all resources to capture our territory and surround our forces. The fighting has reached maximum intensity. The enemy attacks our positions at different points simultaneously. We are in for a very difficult and long stage of the struggle."

    sounds like they're really moving now.

  • Yanqui_UXO [any]
    ·
    2 years ago

    There is a series of fresh blog posts going around, by a woman who survived Mariupol. She says she kept a diary, so there is a lot of very interesting details in those posts. It's a long read as they say, and there's no TL;DR, but this is the first first-hand account of this sort I've seen so far. It's in Russian but her prose is very terse and plain, very Google Translatable, so I'm leaving the links to machine-translated English version of her stuff below, if anyone's interested:

    How it all began
    How it all began (part 2)
    Part 3
    Part 4
    About cell towers and electricity
    Part 5
    Evacuation

    • JamesGoblin [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      I guess this is worth it's own post, I'll make one (OFC with credits and yadda =)

    • GoroAkechi [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      It’s very telling in what ways the right hates Soros. Their biggest attacks on Soros are never some vague funding of social liberal projects, or even on the fact that he’s a billionaire ghoul. It’s always about him as a teenager not doing anything about fucking soldiers. Objectively, what he did in 1944-45 wasn’t immoral. If he tried to prevent soldiers from confiscating Jewish property, he would have been killed, and nothing else would have occurred. They don’t like him because he lived through the Holocaust instead of dying. It’s why they focus on Soros over Musk, as both are very evil men.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
      ·
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      You shouldn’t need to qualify hating an imperialist billionaire with “I’m not a fascist”

      It’s only sus if you like certain other billionaires but hate Soros specifically, and only Soros

  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
    M
    ·
    2 years ago

    I've listened to a few episodes over the last couple years, but I really need to get through Citations Needed so I can really see all the bullshit the media throws at me now that I've installed my brain into the mainframe, and I can just be like "When this douchebag journalist says this, he's being manipulative, Citations Needed discusses it in this episode". Maybe even have one of those copspeak things like "Uhh, the suspect is committing a 417-alpha-charlie violation, responding with immediate kinetic force" but with episode numbers.

    • Wertheimer [any]
      ·
      2 years ago

      I am eternally grateful to them for having transcripts. (I've never actually heard their voices.) Favorite internationalish episodes:

      https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-70-laundering-imperial-sociopathy-through-anodyne-foreign-policy-speak-part-i-f2e123087de7

      https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-106-the-sanitization-of-sanctions-56f976af6019

      https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-137-thought-terminating-enemy-epithets-part-i-f45b1d91bcf4

      https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-138-thought-terminating-enemy-epithets-part-ii-dea4bfcda8c7

    • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
      ·
      2 years ago

      stupid putin, raising wages to counter inflation. doesn't he know that money should be going to prop up wealthy investors and asset hoarders instead!

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
    ·
    2 years ago

    So I heard that mountain dew was origionally made to be a mixer with whiskey, and so I bought one to try it out with some Pendleton's Rye.

    It's surprisingly good. like a whiskey orange but a bit different. I guess it's a good poor fella's mixer.

    • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
      ·
      2 years ago

      I’m trying that this weekend. Another weirdly good whiskey drink: laphroaig (or some other very peaty scotch) and Pepsi max.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
        ·
        2 years ago

        oh Scottish armpit juice, it's been a few years since I had some. I'll have to try that with the max since it sounds weird enough to be good

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Almost every soda mixes well with whiskey. Seltzers, coke, mountain dew, sprite, ginger ale, etc.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    A significant part of European industry relies on ultra-cheap energy from Russia, super-cheap Chinese labor and highly subsidized semiconductors from Taiwan. Europe knew about these risks, but showed greed,” Vestager said.

    The worst person you know said something true.

    And what are they going to do about it then? Let's read some more...

    According to the commissioner, European states cannot simply accept such dependencies as part of the deal. “Europe must diversify its trade and accept higher prices … Consumers would ultimately have to pay for these changes,” she said.

    Oh... now we know her again. Common people will have to pay so the bougies' rate of profit can be maintained. Pensioners will have to freeze in the winter so the supply of champagne to the yachts in Monaco isn't disturbed.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
      hexagon
      M
      ·
      2 years ago

      Oh, okay, so you think that these poor millionaires and billionaires with their globally declining rate of profit shouldn't have their losses made up for? Were you aware of how many risks they make and how hard they work to deserve their free time picking their teeth with the vertebrae of the homeless?

  • SoyViking [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    President Volodymyr Zelenskyy angrily denounced suggestions that Ukraine should cede control of territory to Russia in order to reach a peace agreement, comparing such a move with the appeasement of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Germany.

    Now we're at the Hitler comparisons, reading this gives me mental images from Downfall of Hitler issuing orders to non-existing armies in order to achieve final victory.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
      hexagon
      M
      ·
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      I've heard absolutely nothing about them since the new PM came in. He's doing some changes and stuff but fuel prices have also gone up since then so I'm not sure if they're just giving him a chance or if they've been cowed by the military or what. Would be very helpful to have more non-western comrades so they can tell us what's going on e.g. in Columbo.

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
      ·
      2 years ago

      I’m wondering if this is less about troops for Ukraine, and more about a jobs program for the 40+ age bracket.

      Probably, considering the Russians still have hundreds of thousands of undeployed troops.

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
        hexagon
        M
        ·
        2 years ago

        And also considering that a large amount of the troop losses being reported as Russian aren't actually Russian, they're from the Donbass militia.

  • Tommasi [she/her]
    ·
    2 years ago

    Lots of libs going mask off after Kissinger's comments about returning to the status quo in Ukraine. They clearly don't care about an end to the war, or about the well-being and safety of the people in Crimea or the Donbas republics. What they want is unimportant, what matters is that they "rightfully belong" to Ukraine. Pure ideology.

    How do they expect the people in crimea would be treated if they were forced back under the ukrainian state after willingly seceding to a russia? We're lucky that ukraine won't be in a position to make demands like that.

    • GoroAkechi [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      A lot of Succdems and demsuccs played the troll game of “If you side with Henry Kissenger you’re a bad person” as if politics is a fucking football Match. Henry Kissenger just loves imperialism simple as that

      • SoyViking [he/him]
        ·
        2 years ago

        Henry Kissinger is evil, not stupid. Just because someone is evil doesn't mean they can't make a rational analysis of the world.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      loads of liberals finally have a reason to hate kissinger after years of hearing leftists wish for his death and scolding us for being uncivil