:debatebro-l: "Billionaires innovate and advance human evolution for humans! Kindly point out one time le politician has ever done anything for humans."
"Can you name one time that a police officer was objectively proven to have planted evidence on a suspect?" :debatebro-r:
:debatebro-l: "Name one example of socialism actually helping people."
"(transphobic slur here) aren't being targeted for hate crimes. Show me one time that a (transphobic slur here) was killed because they were (transphobic slur here) and not for a different reason." :debatebro-r:
:so-true: :so-true: "So logical and rationally debated!" :so-true: :so-true:
Like herpes, sea lioning hasn't went anywhere. I've tried providing evidence, examples, but no matter what, when sea lioning happens, those links have "an agenda" or "bias" or "a narrative" whatever the fuck that means. This is the tactic that Sarte warned about: cryptofascists don't actually care about the integrity or consistency of their arguments, only sophistry to make yours seem untenable.
OP, could you give any examples of so called "sea lioning" continuing to exist in 2022?
OP, i am simply trying to engage in rational debate. please answer me
why do you impede reasoned debate, OP? do you have something to hide? I'm just asking questions
Sir, if you would stare directly into this specifically prepared area Im sure you will find all the answers to your questions.
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oh so you claim black lives matter? Name every black person
easily names every black person
I bet you don't even have all the black friends
becomes the friend of every black person
:debatebro-l: Kindly give me examples of successfully riling up cryptofascist debate nerds. I'll wait. :debatebro-r:
For real I really would like to know what works besides "shut up, nerd."
normally just variations of that
or lead them on for ages and drop it on them for more effect
or sealion them yourself
or sealion them yourself
This works.
A bazinga brain recently demanded I provide one OBJECTIVE example of :my-hero: abusing his workers using sources "without an agenda or bias."
I then counter-demanded that he provide one OBJECTIVE example of :my-hero: actually inventing anything.
He went full :frothingfash: and offered me a "free helicopter ride" out of nowhere. Scratched :LIB:
offers of helicopter rides can be countered by offers of cave explorations :pit:
offers of helicopter rides can be countered by offers of cave explorations
please redpill me on this
It's framed as the eeeeeevil gommunism of course, rather than a mass execution of nazis, but...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Pit_massacre
How i defeated fascism with the power of debate
Chapter 1: The Power of Debate
The first step in my journey was realizing that it is impossible to defeat fascism with the power of debate.Chapter 2: The Power of Extreme Violence
I find people that are already writing multi paragrqph responses and ply them with simple questions just to see how long their patience lasts.
They always activate their trump (pun intended :a-little-trolling: ) card there: "That source is biased/has an agenda/has a narrative" whatever the fuck that means.
whatever the fuck that means.
it means "accepting this as fact makes me question my worldview so it's clearly wrong"
the only way you can do respond is by deconstructing the opponent's terms and framing of debate. you can never convince them of evidence sicne their minds were already made up without evidence to begin with. they arent even willing to porivde their own evidence of what they believe. it's like how anyone can lie as much as possible while trying to refute them takes so much more considerable effort, it just becomes maddening and a waste of time.
