https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/28/uvalde-shooting-school-doors/

  • footfaults
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  • knife [any]
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    3 years ago

    Not to dunk on the article too much, but it's a little disheartening that a good portion of the text is devoted to people talking about how expensive changing schools to fit these clowns stupid ideas would be. Yeah I'm sure winging about the cost is a great look when talking about a school shooting.

    There's also actual points like talking about logistics, the fact that the place has to function as a school rather than an impenetrable fortress, etc. but it takes until the last fucking paragraph for someone to say the obvious, and even then it sounds so toothless:

    We’re just not going to the foundation of the issue. We’re just planting a Band-Aid solution

    My point is that ideally journalists should just quote Ted Cruz verbatim and follow that with a large sequence of clown emojis and call it a day, instead of taking him seriously.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah I’m sure winging about the cost is a great look when talking about a school shooting.

      The public system is already cash strapped. And the 2019 bill that pushed similar ideas wasn't fully funded, so it just displaced the costs into the districts.

      Any absurdist plan that further syphons money from education to some quixotic plan for bunker schools absolutely should be treated like one more effort to defund the system.

      • knife [any]
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        3 years ago

        That's a good point. I think what bugged me is treating "it'll cost money tho" as a valid argument in and of itself

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    everyone is gonna die in a fucking fire you fucking idiots

    :honk-enraged: AAAAAA

  • Tormato [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Isn’t the elephant in the room that a ridiculously beyondo absurd suggestion like the won Cruz made isn’t completely and utterly ridiculed by the “media”?

    The fact that they just print this shit, but then allow it to stand - without completely, scathingly discrediting it from the get-go, is a joke.

    Until someone in the media stops playing the phony, insincere and cop-out “we’re just unbiasedly reporting the news” and lights into this bullshit we’ll all still be stuck in this deja vu nightmare of another narrowed debate around what some absolutely heinous, deprived monster beholden to the NRA who makes his living throwing red meat to reactionaries

    As long as not one high-profile MSM “journalist” will call out this kind of bullshit for what it is - beyond the bounds of absurdity (for all the reasons stated in this thread, and that any thinking person would immediately conclude) - then we’re just doomed to have this same dumb, predictable hyper-partisan argument over and over again without anything getting done.

    Simply put, the easy access to and abundance of guns in American society ensures this will happen again and again.

    All the other shit is distraction.

  • ekjp [any]
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    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Now all the liberals are arguing about this dumb shit instead of gun control

      this implies that if liberals were "arguing about gun control" instead, that a solution would happen. A solution isn't going to happen because it contrary to how the entire system is structured, regardless of how liberals approach arguing.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I propose a one wall solution. This way Trump, Cruz, and any other idiot suggesting this can have someone to listen to this bullshit:wall-talk:

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    lmao obviously each school needs to be on a military base with 20 guards stationed outside at all times so that all the guards can cower in a ditch when a shooter comes and have cuddle buddies

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      If we moved schools inside military bases, maybe they'd actually get funding.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is one of those jokerfying things for me. Any sane and functioning society would have addressed this problem 15 years ago and continued refining a comprehensive solution until the school shootings stopped. But instead, politicians and pundits run out with idiotic distractions because it's a fundraising thing for them. They raise money off the controversy and some of them get money from gun lobbies, and they want you to feel unsafe and terrorized so that buying more guns because the police will not protect you (they won't). Democrats occasionally propose that gun owners should have to buy gun insurance because they get money from insurance lobbies which is almost dumber than this door bullshit. People silo into camps and nothing gets solved, ever.

    It's like if you went to the doctor complaining that your leg hurts and the doctor immediately started suggesting that you can have some opiates, or a cast, or a splint, or a brace, or chemotherapy. Is it leg cancer or is it broken or sprained or just sore?

    The patient doesn't know. That's why the patient went to the doctor. The patient went to the doctor to complain about a situation that is unacceptable. The doctor should listen and gather the complaints. The doctor should develop a plan to investigate the problem. The doctor may defer to a specialist. They will develop a diagnosis and then develop a treatment plan.

    If you could trust representatives, their skill set is supposedly "legislation". They would hear our grievances and develop a plan to investigate, which may involve talking to many types of experts. They would develop a comprehensive solution and express it as legislation. They would not start by proposing solutions to the public. The public is, on average, not an expert on any topic, so the first step is to identify people who do have some relevant knowledge and find out what they think.

    They've already fucked this one so expect the school shootings to continue.

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
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    3 years ago

    The primary purpose of schools used to be to prepare children for a life of wage slavery. Now the primary purpose of schools will be to prepare them for life in a for-profit prison.

  • MF_BROOM [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They should stop putting schools inside buildings and instead start putting them inside mammoth-sized tanks operated by teachers who have the discretion to fire away whenever a hooligan approaches the premises

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    • bloop [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Assuming they are talking about one door that opens from the outside, other doors may open from the inside. I’m too lazy to read the article though.

    • OneBillionRubyWasps [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Sir ur car is now jammed-packing the only way in or out, I'm gonna have to ask u to pls not start firing indiscriminately into this crowd of now-trapped children

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      children, just dont scream so loud when you burn to death, its bad publicity