Seem alright? lot of CIA front chatter?

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    Yeh, I’d say it’s the demsoc paper of record basically. So your opinion of jacobin depends on your opinion of democratic socialism lol. Like most rags it has better or worse articles, better or worse writers.

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        What morons did that, that's totally out of step with the majority of chapters.

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            That's so weird to me. I've never gotten a message like that and I've been in DSA for years and the people I know in national do not believe social democracy is democratic socialism. They also don't think Venezuela is (and I agree with that), but they have more nuanced take than just hurr durr Maduro dictator.

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                The PSUV is a democratic socialist party assuredly but the executive branch of the government is still too unaccountable, and the judicial branch has now been suppressing some of the other left parties and some PSUV members. It's the same way even if the US had an active democratic socialist party in power, the US would not be democratically socialist due to how screwed up the executive and judicial system is. The good the PSUV has done for the country is great, but the institutions of the Venezuelan government are not democratic socialist. I'm not at all questioning the elections or legislative system, but the nature of the state institutions which I think they did have the power change democratically (though this is debatable) but for whatever reason they did not. Similarly the US will not be able to transition through democratic socialism (if such a transition is possible) without huge changes, made by the legislature and the people, to the executive and judicial branches, and to the legislature itself.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          Yeah, my chapter has a few elextoralists, but for the most part we're all big on gun ownership and the science of Marxism Leninism. DSA is basically just a vector for organizing and coordinating.

      • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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        Broke: Venezuela is a dictatorship

        Woke: Venezuela is socialist

        Bespoke: Venezuela’s economy is only 20% state owned, less than France

        But seriously I can’t believe that’s what they’re touting, jfc