https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2022/jun/05/queen-elizabeth-appears-as-hologram-inside-260-year-old-golden-carriage-video

  • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah I think it’s pretty clear she’s at death’s door and this whole thing is basically a sendoff for her. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s dead in the next couple of months.

    At which point, the fall of the UK and the Commonwealth will begin! A unified Ireland, indie Scotland and then eventually, a Tropical Independent Wales. The Caribbean is already shifting towards becoming Republics. Imagine :aus-delenda-est: or :kkkanada: having a referendum on the monarchy and delivering a “yes” to keeping King Charles III and Queen Camilla as their heads of State.

    It’s gonna be a decade that breaks brains and deeply crushes the poor, as England flails towards becoming a middle income country.

    • W_Hexa_W
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      1 year ago

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      • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        If anything it would be some weird superstructural thing. No one would dismiss the ability of liberals in the United States to do crazy shit as their civil religion breaks down, but a loss of a monarch can be a similarly disruptive ordeal on top of worsening material conditions in the UK

      • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        In practical terms, not at all. Note that I’m stating correlation, not causation here! (Although I do anticipate that it will speed up commonwealth states getting rid of the the monarchy).

        She does however maintain for a lot of people the dying idea of the UK as a great power, and is perhaps the last well known institutional tie to the British empire. As the UK disintegrates (which is happening regardless of the Queen existing), the comfort blanket that she represents for so many will be yanked away. The UK is undeniably on a downward trajectory materially, and a change in the monarch for the first time in 70 years is going to make that feel more real for a certain section of society. Sadly I don’t think it will result in positive reflection and realisation that a better world is possible, but more sentimentalism and petty Little Englander shit.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          As the UK disintegrates (which is happening regardless of the Queen existing), the comfort blanket that she represents for so many will be yanked away.

          I've watched a lot of Call The Widwife. I didn't realize British boomers had as much weepy-eyed nostalgia for the "national greatness" in the 50s and 60s as their American counterparts do.

          • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            I’d say it’s possibly even greater nostalgia. The Queen was crowned in the same year that Eisenhower was elected (if I remember correctly) - Kissinger was still doing his PhD then. Imagine the psychic damage of having the same head of state since then, through imperial decline and the media endlessly saying what a nice old lady she is. Truly a unique set of :brainworms:

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          but more sentimentalism and petty Little Englander shit

          I hate the term little Englander because it lets London off the hook. London is the power that shakes Africa until all the shiny things fall out the rest of the UK is essentially just being taken along for the ride and benefits from the UK's finance imperialism only in a comparable way to the rust belt does Americas

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        She's a cultural anchor that, among other things, justifies and upholds the existence of hereditary nobility, increases the prestige and perceived legitimacy of the UK on the world stage, and is a focal point for the whole "united" part of United Kingdom.

    • ajouter [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      canada can't do it by referrendum, it would require a consititutional ammendment. But a constitutional ammendment probably has an equal chance of getting rid of the monarchy and dissolving the country entirely

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      We on hell island (Australia) just swore in an Assistant Minister for the Republic, which hasn't been done before as far as I know.

      Referendum is LOOMING