people need to stop being whack and fantasizing about some socdem grandpa eating dirt makes you look super unhinged
Trying to build a mass movement by fantasizing about executing the most popular remotely left-wing figure in the country.
This is just a standard thread here anytime there is a Bernie related post
lmao exactly. I even think the last reply was from an /r/CTH poster or someone here
It's someone here lol. I remember them posting it lol.
It's a joke though. But it's flying over everyone's heads almost two years later
Adolescent power fantasy left making us all look good.
You know what makes me want to join cause with people? Hearing them talk about murdering the guy who helped their cause more than anyone else in the last 50 years.
Not even any given context. Just cuz. Lol.
Personaly im not American.
I believe every imperialist American senetor should be put in jail at the very least for their crimes and that. That includes Bernie with his support and votes for the Afghanistan war, for the intervention of Yugoslavia, for supporting and agreeing in basicaly every Syria and Libya related action while it happened , for voting on the Iraq Budgets and the support for troop actions there and much more. Being less imperialist than the most imperialist people on earth still makes you an imperialist of the highest degree in action. If you wish severe punishment for the other senators its completely legit to wish a proportionate one to a lesser degree for Bernie Sanders and his votes and actions.
If anything reacting so negatively to the somewhat out of line "he should get shot" thing (which isnt that out of line with usual "american imperialist senators should be shot" opinions here ) and jump in to say it can only be edginess and condemnable lack of appreciation for the hero to our cause, Bernie Sanders, is what makes the american left seem less good to me.
Oh and the "we owe so much to him , he brought the socialist movement so much forward" isnt some objective truth you can just state. The degree it holds up its a material analysis that people can have validly different conclusions, especially since there still no actual large scale tangible results of the "gains"
No totally we should murder literally everyone and that should be front and center for our marketing. Come join our team. We will murder you.
Literally not the slightest bit what they said
"We gonna strawman anyone who makes a fair point to preserve our egos" also not a strong look when you're trying to recruit people older than 11
If anything reacting so negatively to the somewhat out of line “he should get shot” thing [...] is what makes the american left seem less good to me.
It's literally exactly what they said.
And whether or not you think their rationalization for murdering literally every leftist anyone in the country has ever heard of is a fair point, it's not a strawman.
If you would like to know what a strawman is, and you're committed to this kind of debatebro rhetoric, perhaps you'd like to fully read the comment you're defending. In their last paragraph they use quotation marks. Who is being quoted? Who made that argument? No one did.
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You: this is "exactly what they said"
Quote: literally edited to remove context, changing the meaning of the sentence
yeah ok, that's definitely exactly what they said, there was no point about people routinely saying similar things about other senators who aren't lib grampa and it never being an issue, I must have dreamt that
and debatebro? someone taking issue with your strawmen doesn't make them a debatebro lol, but you definitely look like one when you change quotes to make disingenuous arguments
:downbear: yourself
Have you really never read a thing that quotes another thing before? Do you not understand what the "[...]" symbol is used for? I didn't change the quote, Shapiro. I omitted that portion because it had no relevance to my point. It was the "why" of "I think we should murder everyone with the stature to drive people to our politics". To affirm my point, I was only concerned with the fact they want to murder people of that ilk. And not only that, they're upset that more people aren't similarly bloodthirsty. That is, in fact, exactly what they said.
So what part of that is a 'strawman'? I get to call you a debatebro. "Context!" "You didn't play the entire video!" is Tim Pool fan shit. Calling everything "strawman" in a reflexive way like you just did is debatebro shit.
"BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING WHEN WE SHITPOST ABOUT PUTTING OUR POLITICAL ENEMIES AGAINST THE WALL"
Wow, almost like the very first thing I said was how this was a bad look for talking about LITERALLY THE MOST BENEFICIAL PUBLIC FIGURE FOR OUR POLITICS SINCE DEBS. Mister "gets angry at disingenuous arguments"
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Go lie down debatebro. "LOL U WRONG BC I CALL U MAD" :data-laughing:
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You're not responding in good faith because you decided it wouldn't suit your argument. Time to log off.
Anyway the real answer to this question is always "when the mass movement necessary for a socialist revolution happens, those who currently divide themselves along innumerable theoretical lines will have the opportunity to stand with the people, or against them, and it is that decision which will determine whether or not they end up in the people's court."
hes fucking old right now:flattened-bernie: , there really is no world in which 110 year old bernie is leading the succdem counter revolution to victory so theres no issue letting him just retire into obscurity, he doesnt even really punch left like other :warren-snake-green: succdems
Should communists feel that all imperialist senators, complicit through votes and support to illegal invasions, sanctios and interventions that have destroyed milions of lives , should just be wished off into obscure retirement
The person who led me down the leftist pipeline was Contrapoints and I know I'm not the only one here
Hell I'm pretty sure a non-insignificant number of people got introduced to left-wing ideas by John Oliver and got radicalized elsewhere
Contrapoints clowning on Jordan Peterson turned the socialism key in my brain so I get ya
Pretty sure my mind went “wtf this guy is just wrong!?” Then I studied further for myself lol
That meme with the ninja turtles escorting splinter called "road to communism" and the turtles are called Bernie, chapo trap house, breadtube, and nick mullen saying slurs
The man is ancient and will be long dead before any revolution comes.
Excellent work Comrade Duck, will you be at the Langley axe throwing bar on Wednesday I’d love to catch up on cases over a few pitchers of Budweiser.
They should take this debate up with their political officer, "LeninsBalls1312"
If China could rehabilitate its emperor who collaborated with the Japanese invaders during WW2, I'm sure we can leave Bernie alone in a hypothetical situation where we establish communism during his lifetime. Maybe don't give him a non-ceremonial position of power but we got bigger fish to fry lol
