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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    Four paragraphs in today's update that I'm going to draw special attention to due to their extremely negative effect on my brain. These are among the worst, but there's plenty of bad shit in there today. Not sure if Ukraine has made a few choice donations to western journalists or what.

    "But Russia’s heavy reliance on train transport, a 19th-century technology, reveals critical gaps in its logistics, the coordinated transfer of supplies. Russia’s struggle to supply troops away from rail lines has slowed its invasion and contributed to catastrophic failures in its early offensives to take Kyiv and Kharkiv. It could also shape the conflict going forward."

    "Wealthy nations sanctioning Russia must make clear they recognize that the concern over global hunger is not unfounded — freedom is not free — and confront the question of costs, along with the reason for bearing them in terms that will resonate. Russia is fighting a war of conquest against a country it sees as a colony, something familiar to many in the emerging world."

    "Moscow’s shortfalls with its arsenal, which have been obvious on the battlefield for weeks, are cause for long-term relief and short-term horror. Relief, because the Russian war machine, on whose modernization Vladimir Putin spent heavily, has been exposed as a paper tiger that could not seriously challenge NATO in a conventional conflict. Horror, because an army that cannot wage a high-tech war, relatively low on collateral damage, will wage a low-tech war, appallingly high on such damage. Ukraine, by its own estimates, is suffering 20,000 casualties a month. By contrast, the U.S. suffered about 36,000 casualties in Iraq over seven years of war. For all its bravery and resolve, Kyiv can hold off — but not defeat — a neighbor more than three times its size in a war of attrition."

    "But fiscal conditions, the inflation rate and donor pressure still matter, no matter which ideological faction has the upper hand. And there are a lot of ways for ideology to manifest itself, some of them requiring less fiscal space than others. What happened on the left after Sanders lost to Biden and the George Floyd protests took off in 2020, the dramatic shift from economic to cultural revolution, offers a case study in how radical energy gets redirected into culture war when its economic ambitions seem blocked off. The right has long experience with this kind of redirection, and ample enthusiasm for cultural conflict. So expect more of it, from both sides, under conditions of fiscal constraint. And expect a slow-dawning realization among the serious-minded socialists and populists that the best time to carry out their big ideas, the best moment for a radical policy departure, may have already come and gone."

    • KimJongFun [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Horror, because an army that cannot wage a high-tech war, relatively low on collateral damage, will wage a low-tech war, appallingly high on such damage. Ukraine, by its own estimates, is suffering 20,000 casualties a month. By contrast, the U.S. suffered about 36,000 casualties in Iraq over seven years of war.

      That's cool. How many Iraqis died in our humane, high-tech war? What's that? Hundreds of thousands? As a low-ball, you say? Huh.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      train transport, a 19th-century technology

      Look bro, Russia should have loaded their tanks onto Teslas and put them in a tunnel bro. That's the transportation of the future bro.

      Wealthy nations sanctioning Russia must make clear they recognize that the concern over global hunger is not unfounded — freedom is not free — and confront the question of costs, along with the reason for bearing them in terms that will resonate

      Some of you might die but that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

      Russia is fighting a war of conquest against a country it sees as a colony, something familiar to many in the emerging world.

      Meanwhile, in the real world, people in the imperial periphery love to see the western imperialists who continue to loot their countries eat shit in the Ukraine.

      an army that cannot wage a high-tech war

      TIL that hypersonic missiles and friggin' lasers are not high-tech.

      Meanwhile the modern NATO-armed Ukrainian army are making technicals out of pickup trucks and WWI machine guns looted from museums.

      And expect a slow-dawning realization among the serious-minded socialists and populists that the best time to carry out their big ideas, the best moment for a radical policy departure, may have already come and gone.

      Serious-minded leftists knows that we simply cannot afford socialism right now. The time is never right for good things to happen.

      • CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Look bro, Russia should have loaded their tanks onto Teslas and put them in a tunnel bro. That’s the transportation of the future bro.

        This is the plot of command and conquer red alert

    • notceps [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That is a lot of dipshittery to go through so ima add some more

      The calculated risks: First, as retired Adm. James Stavridis has proposed, the U.S. should be prepared to challenge the Russian maritime blockade of Odesa by escorting cargo ships to and from the port.

      That will first mean getting Turkey to allow NATO warships to transit the Turkish straits to the Black Sea, which could entail some uncomfortable diplomatic concessions to Ankara. More dangerously, it could result in close encounters between NATO and Russian warships. But Russia has no legal right to blockade Ukraine’s last major port, no moral right to keep Ukrainian farm products from reaching global markets, and not enough maritime might to take on the U.S. Navy.

      It's kinda funny how the dumbest people sometimes can have the highest positions and just furthers my belief that the US navy is the most failson of all the military branches. This guy worked as a head for NATO at some point so he must've heard about the Montreux accord that literally forbids military vessels from countries outside of the black sea to travel through the strait of Bosporus, you can't get anymore rules-based-order than that. I know that it actually doesn't matter but I honestly don't believe that someone sincerely is saying "Yeah no we should totally risk nuclear war" because in order to protect those precious ukranian grain ships they'd have to shoot down russian ships/aircrafts i.e. they'd have to go to war with Russia, this is literally just a wet-no-fly-zone all over again what's next, do we go back to regular no-fly-zone in august?

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Navy Intelligence also has a lot of cross pollination with the :cia: which brings all kinds of fuckery with it :strangelove:

    • Teekeeus
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      2 months ago

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