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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • Prinz1989 [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    They are not "happy to move slowly" they tried moving fast and found their losses too high their logistics too vulnarable. No military ever goes with the war of attrition as plan A. Just take a look at WWI how long it took them to accept that a war of attrition was what they were in. Ironically it is the stronger side that really does not want to do the war of attrition. The weaker side might argue that if they just hold out long enough the enemy might loose the will to fight, like the Vietnamese and Afghans did against the US and I think this is what Ukraine is going for so far without too much success it seems, but maybe Russia is moving so slowly because their soldiers actually are unwilling to go for riskier but more rewarding moves. The stronger side always wants to use their strengh to end the war of attrition and go back to the war of manover and it looks like Russia can't do that for whatever reason.

    This side has correctly seen through the wests propaganda Ukraine is not winning, but it has mostly accepted the Russian position as gospel. Go two weeks or a month or six weeks back with some accounts and they always claim that Ukraine is just two weeks away from collapse, being encirclement, surrendering on mass that things will get moving again and then they don't. Unless there is just wild speculation that Poland will invade Ukraine in which case Germany of course will have to retake Hinterpommern...

    The most realistic scenario of an end is that Ukraines or Russias homefront collapses before any decisive battle ends and just for the record again I still believe that Ukraine is in the worse position since Russia has more material and Ukraines economy is in shambles, but this might go on for a long time.

    • comi [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Russia can’t go faster cause:

      A) ukraine still has s300, and russia hasn’t planned for dealing with their own anti air systems in their doctrines

      B) ukraine gets full recon from the west, so there can be no surprise attacks with large scale movements of heavy weaponry

      C) the state of russian spetznaz is not so great to do deep sabotage/the fortified regions are impenetrable to this in any case

      D) russia hasn’t learned railway bridges locations in ukraine

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
          ·
          2 years ago

          This guy is a known doomer, he always takes the least charitable interpretation of every event for Russia

        • comi [he/him]
          ·
          2 years ago

          Explain why donetsk gets shelled by m777/caesars? Maybe some large air transport brought them there? :puzzled:

            • comi [he/him]
              ·
              2 years ago

              How did they get from poland all the way to donetsk? :soviet-hmm: how do shells get delivered? :soviet-hmm: some logistics mysteries science just can’t answer

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                  ·
                  2 years ago

                  The truly perplexing thing is that comi is supposedly Russian. Not sure how he ends up having takes that are more anti-Russia than the western mainstream media though. Like even Washington Post and CNN are starting to admit openly that Ukraine is losing the war badly

                  • CTHlurker [he/him]
                    ·
                    2 years ago

                    I really enjoy watching you, probably Hexbears most pro-russia poster, spar with Comi, hexbears most anti-russian poster. It brings back the fuzzy feeling from when I still had fun on Twitter and Reddit.

                    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                      ·
                      2 years ago

                      I give comi a hard time, but if he’s really Russian I don’t mind him criticizing the Russian government as much as a westoid doing it. At least it’s not chauvinism

              • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                ·
                2 years ago

                Shells don’t really get delivered. Russia is firing 500,000 artillery shells per day and Ukraine is firing around 5,000