First, it started with people saying cis women getting breast implants was gender-affirming surgery and at least that kinda made sense on the very surface level. Now people are claiming all plastic surgeries are gender-affirming which made me check whether this was some orchestrated trolling effort. Doesn't seem like it.

Here's the tweet .

  • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Yes and what does that have to do with gender? Being attractive is a universally sought after trait for all genders and lack thereof.

    So I ask again, which gender am I affirming when I get my cleft palate fixed?

    • MeatfuckerDidNothing [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Treating a cleft palate isn't purely cosmetic

      But let's use liposuction instead. Do you really think that thinness and gender aren't tied together?

      You can ask a lot of enbies who want to present androgynously and have strong feelings on the mainstream definition of androgynous being thin

      You can look at the different ways fatness is gendered between men and women.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        You dodged the question. Anything that isn’t medically necessary is cosmetic. Trans related medical care is medical, not cosmetic.

        Your attempts to force everything into the gender box is both incoherent and tbh pretty transphobic, equating a cosmetic optional surgery with medically necessary ones.

        I am an enbie, so I ask again because you still have not answered, if I get liposuction you believe I’m re-affirming a feminine gender role? You think if I get my teeth whitened I’m affirming, what, masculinity? This shit is not scientific or coherent

        • MeatfuckerDidNothing [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          if I get liposuction you believe I’m re-affirming a feminine gender role?

          You didn't read my comment, where I said

          " You can ask a lot of enbies who want to present androgynously and have strong feelings on the mainstream definition of androgynous being thin "

          Gonna be real with you, youre being kind of a dick and you're not bothering to read what I actually write, so get your last word in and then stop engaging with me in this thread.

          • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            :shrug-outta-hecks:

            I come up with a couple counter-examples to your new idealist theory that everything in the universe is all about gender all the time and you don’t have a coherent response.

            Maybe I just want to get a surgery to look good. I’m not affirming any gender by doing so unless it’s specifically has to do with sex characteristics associated with a certain gender. There are tons of examples of universal cosmetic surgeries that don’t cleanly fit into your theory, so your solution is to ignore them or force them into one gender or the other (rather insultingly)