• DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Lol I’ve brought up Hillary coining the term “fake news” before and they don’t care for that either

        • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's amazing to me that they don't remember that "fake news" was a real legitimate criticism of the right before it was reappropriated by the right. Like, this wasn't that long ago, and it has to do with the trump administration. The thing they obsess over every detail of..

          • Opposition [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Remember in 2016 /r/The_Donald dominated /all day after day, with yet another example of the media lying about Trump. They couldn't quit doing it, and the video evidence of it was right there in front of everyone's faces. This made the media and Clintonistas very angry indeed and they were not used to anyone talking back to them.

          • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Even before that, it was part of Democratic messaging to delegitimize non-corporate progressive and leftist news sources on social media. Misinformation from Fox News has been a thing for decades, but “fake news” was originally a conflation of intentionally inaccurate clickbait and actual left-leaning political commentary gaining traction without corporate gatekeepers. As I remember it, the online misinformation divide at the point was less partisan and more about young vs old

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Are they that stupid or are they doing this on purpose? Trump is a fucking rockstar, his worshippers still see him as their president.

  • UlyssesT
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    2 months ago

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  • redfern45 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    This happened in Pennsylvania. Our Dem candidate for Governor; Josh Shapiro, had ads played during the primaries promoting Doug Mastriano, who is a complete freak and was at the capitol riot and would most certainly put a trigger law in place if Roe is overturned.

    It was commonly assumed by most people (including me) that Shapiro has the win in the bag; as he’s a pretty skilled politician overall.

    The first poll comes out this week and he’s only up by 4 points. (44-40) and there’s a whole summers worth of time for democrats as a whole to continue not doing anything as everything gets gradually worse. Now I’m thinking he might actually lose and we’d have our own, worse version of Desantis.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It’s a bold strategy cotton, let’s see how it plays out.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Democrats overhear your comment and immediately send $1m to Tom Cotton

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I know we’ve had 6 years of evidence that polling is bad at accounting for Trump, but they do indeed poll lower in general. If a Trump endorsement comes after an initial poll is conducted, the candidate’s approval usually drops among Republican voters

      • Kanna [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Fair enough, I didn't realize. Maybe they're just starting to get over him specifically

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          My ideal scenario is that they started to do the fascist thing of shrinking their ingroup too quickly. You’re supposed to get power before the purges but there was a lot of infighting after the 6th while leaders scrambled to not get mentioned in the hearings. Even though it’s likely that nothing will come of the hearings, no one wants to risk testifying before Congress and accidentally giving a shitty sound bite. And for a while people weren’t sure who to side with in terms of the Trump vs McConnell struggle near the end of the term.

          However, there’s a very real possibility that they’ll be gaining ground in the midterms (Republicans definitely will, but Trumpites in particular) as opposed to in another 2 or 4 years. And it looks like the Democrats are probably helping that along. I’m not so much worried about “harm reduction” in the way that libs tell people to vote. I’m more worried about personal organizing projects having time to get off the ground before the mass graves start being dug.

        • Opposition [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          They think that if they can fix the constitutional machine called “democracy”, then people would wake up and realize what is good and bad and would democratically produce good outcomes.

          Yes, I've come to understand that when the DC establishment says "democracy" it means "outcomes favorable to us and our interests". If the outcome is unfavorable, it is not "democratic". This is why Elizabeth Warren says any Republican takeover of the House in November is illegitimate. The GOP will seize control of all the important committees and investigate Biden and his son for their obvious corruption. How is a result like that "democratic"?

  • MerryChristmas [any]
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    3 years ago

    What if they put that money into backing Democrats that people actually liked? Or on hiring me as a consultant so I could tell them to put that money into backing Democrats that people actually liked and also I get to have some money?