Yes, and the marxists also have +/- 8.5% in Flanders at the moment, which isn't neglible.
When we campaign at factories, it's clear that many people vote VB but have a lot of sympathy for us. VB has the appeal of the anti-system vote (when you oppose the system, the current politics, the destruction of the welfare state etc., you vote VB), but people generally respect the activism and the presence of PVDA among the workers. It's only a matter of time before the anti-working class agenda of VB is laid bare for all to see, and they lose their anti-system appeal, then PVDA can take over their electoral base.
BTW, there's nothing specifically "based" about the Francophone Belgians. The radical left out-organised the radical right there, and because of that the hegemonic anti-system vote is with the left now. The radical right will only manage to make a breaktrough there if PVDA ever abandons it's principles. In other words, they have the same problems in the Francophone part of the country, as we have in Flanders, but because we're a disciplined and highly organised party with an active presence among the working class, we still manage to have a decent score there as well.
PVDA is the best thing Belgium has going, but it's pretty much the same as the SP used to be 10-15 years ago in the Netherlands. They are bureaucratic social-democrats, with only a minority of the party being made up of marxists.
WIth al due respect, but if you think that, you don't know anything about PVDA. PVDA is a marxist party. Marxism is the backbone of out party, and an open tactic or marketing campaign with flashy colours doesn't change that. If you're interested, I'd advise you to read this publication from the 8th congress of PVDA , where the fundamental direction of tha party was decided.
![The meat lobby[Farmers party, BBB] is up to 2nd place in the latest dutch polls. I hate this country so fucking much.](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/gj8e2PjQv6.png){kind=link}
Yes, and the marxists also have +/- 8.5% in Flanders at the moment, which isn't neglible.
When we campaign at factories, it's clear that many people vote VB but have a lot of sympathy for us. VB has the appeal of the anti-system vote (when you oppose the system, the current politics, the destruction of the welfare state etc., you vote VB), but people generally respect the activism and the presence of PVDA among the workers. It's only a matter of time before the anti-working class agenda of VB is laid bare for all to see, and they lose their anti-system appeal, then PVDA can take over their electoral base.
BTW, there's nothing specifically "based" about the Francophone Belgians. The radical left out-organised the radical right there, and because of that the hegemonic anti-system vote is with the left now. The radical right will only manage to make a breaktrough there if PVDA ever abandons it's principles. In other words, they have the same problems in the Francophone part of the country, as we have in Flanders, but because we're a disciplined and highly organised party with an active presence among the working class, we still manage to have a decent score there as well.
Hopefully you're right, I don't live in Belgium anymore so I haven't seen the shift away from VB/NVA and I can't do much more than :vote: PVDA again.
PVDA is the best thing Belgium has going, but it's pretty much the same as the SP used to be 10-15 years ago in the Netherlands. They are bureaucratic social-democrats, with only a minority of the party being made up of marxists.
WIth al due respect, but if you think that, you don't know anything about PVDA. PVDA is a marxist party. Marxism is the backbone of out party, and an open tactic or marketing campaign with flashy colours doesn't change that. If you're interested, I'd advise you to read this publication from the 8th congress of PVDA , where the fundamental direction of tha party was decided.