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  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    a lot of people cite China's historical relationship with drugs as a reasonable pretense for harsh laws against it.

    I however, would challenge the CPC to consider such a philosophy in conversation with policy toward Western Missionaries an equally-or-more harmful societal force, and reasses the drug policy in light of the example of missions in China being apparently in check.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      There's a tight control over religion as well - an example is how the CPC went full medieval style in nominating their own bishops for their catholic churches instead of letting the Roman Church select them.

    • FidelCastro [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I’m sure they will eventually. I’d be hesitant to lift the bans as well if I was them.

      Kicking out the missionaries fully would set off the imperial core. You can mitigate them with functional education systems anyway.

      • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        you can mitigate ills of drugs with education and regulation as well

        but uh fuck missionaries all my homies hate missionaries 1000000 dead bible bringers

        • FidelCastro [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          yup. we agree here on principle, but we’re also looking at this from a mostly western lense without much of the historical and cultural background involved in China’s policies.

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Re-education camps for missionaries but it's just making them smoke bowls until they stop being dorks :stalin-smokin:

    • Fishroot [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      the problem is the implementation of progressive law is not because the government doesn't want to, it's more the social conservatism of the population. When more that half of chinese population was hooked on opium leading to a social collapse, you tend to ''learn the lessons''

      but harsh punishment due to drug posession leads to grave consequences. Yunnan province is the biggest drug trading hub and it's also a province with an AIDS epidemy

      • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        if not applying death penalties to drug dealers would lead to a public lynching i suppose i'd get it, but is there evidence that thats where the policy originates? that public outrage at druggists is that high?

        • Fishroot [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          ''if not applying death penalties to drug dealers would lead to a public lynching i suppose i’d get it''

          Twofold with the ideas that i find interesting with this comment. Drug dealing is indeed a crime in China where the government try to control drug trafficking with laws and punishment because the population's general opinion on drug is not good.

          What is interesting in the case of Drug users in china is that the population don't regard them well neither. This is a vestige of the Chinese socialist society of the 50s-90s

        • Fishroot [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          i would say there is no real policy, it's more an retrospection on the 2 opium wars and the outcome, a lot of Chinese values are shaped by historical events (aka how the collapse of traditional value during cultural revolution came back in forces after the market liberalization in the 90s)

          • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            the real policy is harsh laws against use and import of drugs.

            if this originates in a popular belief and violence within the people its an uncontrovertible policy the CPC has an obligation to promulgate---but i can find no way to confirm this beyond believing every policy in the PRC is dictated by popular will, which is obviously not true.

          • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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            2 years ago

            It does seem odd that drugs have such a stronger reaction while 10s of millions died in the Taiping Rebellion around the same time.

            • Fishroot [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              ''you are allowed to beat your brother but you don't let some filthy randos do the same'' -my father