she should split the party. Her name has to be big enough by now. Even if it's just succdem shit it will at least be a little actual fucking opposition in government. Give people something to organize around, and the party organizations could and should do mostly non-electorial things.
Communists could easily infiltrate such a party, the Bolsheviks were part of the Russian Social Democratic Party before splitting with the succdems.
in moments of extreme sectarianism, like 1850s up to the civil war, the United States saw the formation of pretty radical and ideological driven parties. While most didn't see much electoral success and were usually regional when they did they still did a lot to increase nation tensions and gave abolitionists space to agitate.
like yeah this succdem third party probably wouldn't be viable if we are just talking about electoral success. But I think there is potential for them as organizational vehicle for non-electorial activities. There's obviously a split in the democratic party, I think it would only benefit the "left-wing" (lol) to free themselves of the rotting corpse of the democratic party. Maybe wait until the economic crash and trump 2024.
When I start feeling down about the prospects for third party success, I just think about how it was literally illegal to be part of a union before 1935 in the US... but people did it anyways and they had scary MFs like the Pinkertons to contend with the whole time.
The dems will never be a left of center party and a socialist party could never meaningfully opperate in the way and capacity it should as a subparty under the umbrela of the third most antisocialist party of modern history (after Nazis and the GoP)
if she split from the Dems she could be ok again, she had a lot more popular support a few years ago when she was still saying no to the rightwing/centrist dems
Using the bougeoise own theater stage to simultaneously advertise your ideology - what it materially means to the workers, and using your platform to undermine the theater of the state is a proven tactic.
From Kerensky to Lenin, Socialists - and succdems, have proven you can and should the electoral theater so long as it is tactically sound.
Would be at least interesting to do something like the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact—start a mini-party that exists in the democrat ecosystem until it reaches a certain amount of popular support/elected members at which point it breaks off completely
she should split the party. Her name has to be big enough by now. Even if it's just succdem shit it will at least be a little actual fucking opposition in government. Give people something to organize around, and the party organizations could and should do mostly non-electorial things.
Communists could easily infiltrate such a party, the Bolsheviks were part of the Russian Social Democratic Party before splitting with the succdems.
In the US, changing your vote to your second choice is a federal crime instead of a built-in option on the ballot. Third parties are de facto illegal.
If someone is going to do electoralism the only choices are A: Entryism and B: once in a century party change from one duopoly to another
Entryism can include treating something like the DSA as its own sub-party underneath the umbrella of the one and only left of center party
in moments of extreme sectarianism, like 1850s up to the civil war, the United States saw the formation of pretty radical and ideological driven parties. While most didn't see much electoral success and were usually regional when they did they still did a lot to increase nation tensions and gave abolitionists space to agitate.
like yeah this succdem third party probably wouldn't be viable if we are just talking about electoral success. But I think there is potential for them as organizational vehicle for non-electorial activities. There's obviously a split in the democratic party, I think it would only benefit the "left-wing" (lol) to free themselves of the rotting corpse of the democratic party. Maybe wait until the economic crash and trump 2024.
When I start feeling down about the prospects for third party success, I just think about how it was literally illegal to be part of a union before 1935 in the US... but people did it anyways and they had scary MFs like the Pinkertons to contend with the whole time.
The dems will never be a left of center party and a socialist party could never meaningfully opperate in the way and capacity it should as a subparty under the umbrela of the third most antisocialist party of modern history (after Nazis and the GoP)
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if she split from the Dems she could be ok again, she had a lot more popular support a few years ago when she was still saying no to the rightwing/centrist dems
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Using the bougeoise own theater stage to simultaneously advertise your ideology - what it materially means to the workers, and using your platform to undermine the theater of the state is a proven tactic.
From Kerensky to Lenin, Socialists - and succdems, have proven you can and should the electoral theater so long as it is tactically sound.
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Would be at least interesting to do something like the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact—start a mini-party that exists in the democrat ecosystem until it reaches a certain amount of popular support/elected members at which point it breaks off completely