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I love that vtuber fans raise so much shit when some content moderation comes in because they want to feel more comfortable on their own stream so people lose their shit and harass them until they have to fucking leave. It's so fucking bizarre to see so many people so confidently fucking wrong about the damn slur. It's a shame that she seems to have backpedaled on it and unbanned the word now but goddamn shit is bad.
This problem tends to float around in the vtuber circles with agency management like Nijisanji and Hololive, from what I've seen. There's a more idol-like presentation to these groups that tends to attract more of a "weeb" mindset and all the baggage that comes with that. I think that some really rotten types of weebs think that because Niji/Holo talents have bosses to answer to, and group reputation to manage, that they can boss around the talents.
Also, those two being Japanese companies you don't get Pride Month/Black History Month/etc celebrations or other LGBT or diverse messaging that's become standard for public-facing companies in the West in the past decade, which makes them look based or whatever to chan weebs
Hololive does a better job shutting down onvious bigotry though, because they're really pushing the idol concept and don't want any potential customers turned away. Niji tends a bit more edgy so more stuff gets through. Not to just purely defend hololive as the brainworms are telling me to, they let their talents talk about Lolis and shotas which they shouldn't, but that doesn't affect the bottom line at all. They very comfortably get away with it because it's not the EN branch that does it and by the time you are in deep enough to hear Matsuri or Fubuki say some cringe you probably are too invested to stop.
It is weird to see Japanese Vtubers joke about that stuff like it's the equivalent of a foot fetish
Oh yeah, it's a pretty severe problem, and it's always a cringe point when an EN talent talks to a JP talent that makes a joke about lolicon and you can tell that even though the EN talent is trying to play it off like a joke, they're also very urgently trying to change the subject.
Not a position I'd want to be in honestly. You'd think some of the talents would be pretty conscious about this and other problematic stuff in the anime community but I assume they can't really say anything because of management AND because the fanbase would tear them to shreds
Just Japanese people in general. I'm not going to say every Japanese person is a pervert because that's obviously racist, and in many ways American culture is comparable, but the fact you can find pedophilic content very easily is incredibly awful. I enjoy miss Kobayashi's dragon maid but I can't recommend it because of some very suggestive scenes with minors.
Yeah, I wouldn't call the vtubers in question vile pedophile chuds or anything, it's just so baked in to the nerd culture there.
Kind of surprised it hasn't been talked about more in Western media considering how big Hololive has become though
Anime, for as big as its gotten in the last decade, is still a pretty self-contained community/niche in the West, and talking about the pedophilia problem in the anime industry is a motherfucker of a third rail to piss on in that community, so nobody with both the platform and the credentials to speak with authority on the issue can do so without committing career suicide.
It's really resembling of the "Nazi walks into a punk bar" parable, in a sense.
I'm thinking more of a Kotaku or Polygon editorial
Oh, for sure, they could talk about it. I just get the impression that, for people with an audience within the anime community, there's a nervous radio silence out of a fear of becoming a target if they say anything too inflammatory.
I would like to see some investigative journalism about the whole thing from a publication like Kotaku or Polygon, though, definitely.
I definitely don't think Suisei or Fubuki would ever actually do something to a young boy given the chance, but it's always worrying to see. I'm also not as sure Matsuri could be trusted around a young girl, she has violated people's boundaries repeatedly and often.(I'm fighting my inclination to say there's nothing wrong with the idols, vtubers sure are a powerful drug).
I do genuinely think it's because it is so hard to make heads or tails of what's going on in hololive unless you are into it. Like, are you gonna write an expose on several popular vtubers to an audience of boomers that won't get it, or just make another article about Japanese shota porn being sold everywhere? Most people won't bother to research it because they'll be sick of vtuber clips, or they are into it and don't want people to know about the worse aspects of it.
Idk, I wouldn't speculate on whether the Japanese lady playing an anime girl on stream is a potential pedo because she horseys around with her coperformers on stream
They're playing that stuff up for the viewers