For instance, the Civ games are basically Whig History: The Game, presenting liberal capitalism as the ideal end point for all societies. It even includes uncivilized "barbarian tribes" whose sole purpose is to be exterminated so you can take their land for the glory of capitalism.

  • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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    2 years ago

    I feel really conflicted with Kreia. Like, her philosophy is fucking terrible and it does seem to be supported to some degree by the game's events. And yet, the game also makes it very very clear that she is lying to everyone constantly, and I think that includes lying to herself. Like (if not for the fact that different writers working for TOR cofirmed her to be correct years later, which I hate), I don't know that it's possible to read her "but what if Revan didn't ACTUALLY fall, maybe I just taught him so good that he faked falling" speech and think that she's not deluding herself at least a little bit.

    She's given this incredibly-written dialog (and absolutely amazing voice actor, fucking bravo) to express her awful ideology, and I think we tend to read that as the writer agreeing with her ideology. And maybe he did- we all know now that Avellone is an awful person. But I do think it's possible to not read it as being that way 100% of the time, at the very least. But that might just be the part of me that doesn't want to critique Kotor2 talking.

    • BatCountryMusicFan [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I mean, like a lot of white men I went through an insufferable libertarian, "fuck you the whole world's against me but I'll fucking win" phase when I was younger, and I'd be lying if I said what Kreia said in KOTOR 2 didn't have some influence on that. At least on a concious level. Material conditions, social programming, etc. are a whole other fuck.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Her Sith name is "Darth Traya", aka "Betrayer" and I think that went over a lot of people's heads. I hated her character so much. The whole point of Star Wars is that, at least at a personal, individual level, there is a clear moral good and evil and using your power to hurt other people for selfish reasons is evil.