female character who is a trained spy and fighter doing competent combat stuff: mary sue
male 19 year old blonde kid, grew up on a farm playing with toys his whole life now infiltrating an enemy base, uses magic within several hours of learning it exists, and becomes an expert fighter pilot on his first try: this is normal
luke kind of sucked at the magic stuff, and well everything really, until return of the jedi tho. Except for shooting stuff I guess, but he "used to bullseye womp rats with his t-9" or whatever
female character who is a trained spy and fighter doing competent combat stuff: mary sue
male 19 year old blonde kid, grew up on a farm playing with toys his whole life now infiltrating an enemy base, uses magic within several hours of learning it exists, and becomes an expert fighter pilot on his first try: this is normal
luke kind of sucked at the magic stuff, and well everything really, until return of the jedi tho. Except for shooting stuff I guess, but he "used to bullseye womp rats with his t-9" or whatever
not negating the first part of what you said