I remember saying to a Star Wars nerd that the resistance fighters in the 1977 movie were definitely modeled after the Viet Cong, and the Storm Troopers in Rogue One were definitely supposed to evoke imagery of American troops occupying Iraq. He called me a piece of shit and said that Star Wars isn't political.
“Damn bro I understand your stupid little space movies more than you do. I’m gonna have to revoke your nerd status, now you’re just a loser” :fidel-cool: :fidel-balling:
IT SO WAS THOUGH, DON'T TELL ME THAT SHOT OF THE TWO STROMTROOPERS WALKING DOWN THE STREET NEXT TO THE TANK WASN'T STRAIGHT OUT OF IRAQ
AND THE GUYS WHO AMBUSHED THEM WERE WEARING HEADWRAPS
I was just thankful I wouldn’t ever need to sit through a sequel with these boring-incarnate characters.
no, just a prequel tv show
Prequels, man. Why can’t these franchises set anything in the future of previous instalments?
:doomer: Yeah but then we just get shit like ancient alien Indiana Jones featuring Shia LeBeuf
Tbf, Berserk did that with Guts being angry murderman and then having a prequel arc showing how he became angry muderman, and it's considered iconic (though the initial arc is obviously pretty weak)
A movie or TV series that's just about podracing would be amazing.
I want some random slice of life shit about some noodle vendor on the lower levels of coruscant
Some of the best star wars stuff ive ever seen were some comics i had as a kid that were exactly that kind of thing
I enjoyed the very 1977 Star Wars look of it, please don't hate me.
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You ever read a Greek Tragedy? Knowing the outcome has no bearing on enjoyment. Past that, the characters all emote well enough and have motivations. Maybe the lines sound goofy to you, but that's star wars baby
Knowing the outcome has no bearing on enjoyment
maybe for you.
Romeo and Juliet starts with a narration saying "these kids gonna die" and it's one of the most popular and enjoyed plays in history. You might not like it, but it is not a bad way to tell a story.
that doesn't tell you anything about whether it would be better the first time if you didn't know
Yes, but you're whinging because the story wasn't told in a way you like. Telling the ending is an ancient story telling device, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. It can build dramatic irony, because you know Oedipus is sleeping with his mom, that Romeo will die, that Troy will fall, but the characters don't. The stories are built around that. Sure, you may not like it, but it is a fine and good storytelling device.
just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad
that's never what i said
I’m still trying to figure out how anyone can be entertained by a story...where the outcome has been known since 1977.
Okay that's true, but then what was the point of any of what you said? That you didn't personally like rogue one? Why did you jump to the side of someone saying it sucked for that reason if you don't think that?
worse isn't the same as bad. enjoying something less than you could have doesn't mean not enjoying it at all. I mostly liked rogue one, especially next to the JJ ones, but the prequelness takes a lot away from it and while I like gary whitta, it's a worse story than the books that disney pissed on and rian johnson burned in effigy.
giving up tension for no value is a bold move and I can't remember the last time it paid off. maybe better Call Saul will manage it, but i'm waiting for it to conclude before watching the last few seasons.
True, but my point here was that "you know the ending of the film" isn't a legitimate complaint. You can still think the writings trash, but this isn't a legitimate argument.
This reminds me of that time the new Wolfienstien came out and the chuds also thought it was about trump.:pit: :stalin-gun-1: :soviet-hmm:
lmao remember when, before New Colossus came out, someone leaked that conversation between two Nazis about how people need to learn to respect others' opinions and stop hating Nazis unfairly, right before they start to discuss their death squad assignments? That made chuds FURIOUS, it was so great
Shame the rest of that game wasn't as good as New Order
Rogue One was literally for the chuds, they wanted to see Darth Vader smash a dude with the force like a video game, and they got that.
Eh, i enjoyed seeing Vader wreck shop and be scary too lol. Especially after they made three movies shitty movies about him
I remember the main female character getting way more hate for being a "mary sue."
female character who is a trained spy and fighter doing competent combat stuff: mary sue
male 19 year old blonde kid, grew up on a farm playing with toys his whole life now infiltrating an enemy base, uses magic within several hours of learning it exists, and becomes an expert fighter pilot on his first try: this is normal
luke kind of sucked at the magic stuff, and well everything really, until return of the jedi tho. Except for shooting stuff I guess, but he "used to bullseye womp rats with his t-9" or whatever
not negating the first part of what you said
That was more for rey in The force awakens, you had to be deeper into the manosphere to be offended about Jynn Erso.
the weirdest take I remember was that Dick Masterson guy who complained that Rey wouldn't have been a scavenger, she would have more realistically been a prostitute
I could see his point if this series didn't have a nineteen year old making vroom vroom noises while playing with toy planes blow up a super weapon. Or literal teddy bears own the United States army. Realism isn't a concern when it comes to star wars.
I dunno, if a teddy bear dropped a log on my car it would probably blow up the same way.
Lmao the hiding the napalm in the tree trick, get's em every time :commiku:
But I just don't see the teddy bear lifting the log. The scene where one glides in on little wings is particularly bad
Rey wasn't the greatest character in a lot of ways, the movies did suck, but not for the reasons chuds mald over.
Wait, that was a thing? All I remember of it is "cool space battle, spaceship crashes into the bigger spaceship in slow motion" tbh. pinnacle of star wars tbh
I remembered that scene because I remembered seeing the hammerhead corvette and thinking "Bro it's the hammerhead Cruiser from KOTOR!" I was very thrilled.
All three of the sequel trilogy kinda just blended together in my mind, the prequel trilogy gets a lot of shit (much of it deserving) but at least each of those was uniquely shit
Oh wait it happens in both. Jedi one is the ftl into the ship, music goes silent one. Rogue has the slow impact vs the glowy lines one
I think it started because Jack Proisebic or whatever his name is started this false rumor that spread over the internet that RO went through extensive reshoots to give it an anti Trump message
Remember it? There is a whole fucking cottage industry now of chud youtubers that can rake in 500K - 1M views in a day on a video speculating that the latest cape shit or sci-fi spectacle is going to be woke, anti conservative crap and completely fail in the box office based on a new teaser trailer alone. The 'Kathleen Kennedy is the devil' gravy train is keeping many neckbeards warm and fed.
Imagine being the sort of person who subscribes to The Quartering's Patreon just to get the first scoops of what kids TV shows have gone woke or whatever.
No I don't, I remember most people liking it then forgetting about it, but it's still my favorite star wars
Yeah Rogue One was a good spinoff. It looked beyond the larger-than-life characters of the main trilogies, and made the world feel more alive, rather than just a space opera.
It can be criticised for not expanding the scope of the universe, but that wasn’t really its goal. Its purpose was to deepen the scope that we already have.
In a sense it was the most down-to-Earth of all the movies. It showed the sheer amount of unseen sacrifice driving the
Viet CongRebels.
I kinda enjoyed Rogue One, it helps that I watch those kinda movies with my young nephews so I can shut off my brain and just ride the vibes.
it also has alan tudyk in it who's great (unless he's done anything shitty idk about his personal life)
Fun fact, he was the rooster in Moana as well as a ton of other Disney animals
he's also the only joker since mark hamill who I feel like has the right voice, sorry joaquin phoenix and heath ledger
I used to be a fan of space wars but recently I realized it's just aspects I liked; the stories themselves are unimpressive.
i liked the chill but snarky robot in Rogue One. the "did you know that wasn't me?" scene cracked me up.
i guess "chill" in the sense that he's the anti-C3PO, who is super extra all the time about being hurt, dying or even just upsetting people.
the rogue one bot was a fighting robot and fatalist, which is my favorite humor. also, he like died for the mission and it made me weepy because i experience robots as more emotionally relatable than most fictional characters. remember that story-within-a-story of that little robot in Season 3 of Fargo. shit fucked me up. oh, Gloria Burgle/Minsky, I am undone!
