You fucking freaks.

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Good: Luke being jaded and refusing to teach. Luke thinking about killing Ben to stop another Vader from coming into being. Kylo turning on the Sith and wanting to become radically centrist. Light speed ramming even if it doesn't make sense with lore. Rey being just an average person with no connection to force users or Skywalkers. Luke confronting Ben and dying.

    Bad; Casino planet, Benicio, the weird workplace tension with Poe and the Leia replacement, Hux, Phasma

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Johnson just killing off the secretly Palpatine character bc he was dumb and boring and getting in the way of actually interesting characters will never not be hilarious. Jar Jar was trying to set up this whole thing where Palpatine is secretly somehow the big baddy again (Which is stupid bc no one cares about Palpatine, the whole franchise to that point is about Darth Vader). And Johnson is just like "I don't even know why this character is in the movie, I'm just going to kill him off for character development so we can focus on the bad guy who is the equivalent of Darth Vader".

    • DumpsterDive [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      On the good side you left out Luke realizing the Jedi Order orthodoxy about how the Force works and relates to morality. The twist with Rey's lack of pedigree however is so cool relative to the series that it probably counts for three points.

      On the bad side you left out the general pacing, Leia's weird floating scene, and the movie being too fucking long overall.

      • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Rey’s lack of pedigree is so cool relative to the series that it probably counts for three points.

        l like that Obi-wan was so effective that both sides of this forgot he was already the better version of this type of character.

        • DumpsterDive [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          He's not the main character in any movie but Phantom Menace and there's never even a discussion of his heritage. It's not at all like Rey's "orphan MC trying to find out who their real parents were" thing.