• HexbearIntern [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    There’s someone effortposting about this in dev chat rn

    However, the biggest names in corporate social media and even in the fediverse all continue to relegate pronouns to users’ profile pages, assuming they’re included at all. This makes pronouns more of a symbolic gesture than a practical one. Sure, some people will get into the habit of checking someone’s profile before engaging with them. This has many advantages beyond pronouns as well. But from a design perspective, if you were looking to encourage users to develop the habit of respecting pronouns, hiding them behind a page load and a scroll would not be a viable solution.

    …

    Pronoun tags should be inlined anywhere users are interacting with each other. … Hexbear remains unfortunately unique in this regard, which given how much good we believe the design could do, is not ideal. This is why we’re looking to contribute this feature back upstream in a way that would federate properly. I am still actively looking for websites who have adopted a similar approach, but have only found people who used to be users of LGBTQ forums from the early oughts.

    Are we really the only website who does this? Legitimately, I’d love some counterexamples

    Edit: I have been informed that LinkedIn does inline pronouns, but you have to opt in by setting your own pronouns

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      me, remembering the frothing reactionary rage of an extremely vocal segment of the userbase when pronoun tags were added and then made mandatory: :yea:

      now imagine reddit trying it.

      • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        If there's one thing the early struggle sessions did right, it's getting stupidpol types to fuck all the way off

        idk if "stupidpol types" are even a thing that exists anymore, i think they've moved on to more obviously reactionary shit by now

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I think they're calling themselves "patsocs" now. but yep. my point was more without the ideological bent of the site, a liberal admin team would have caved to the userbase.

        • MtF_DOOM [she/her,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          there are still a few, but a lot jumped on the infrared train. one or two of them keep coming back here ban after ban like the pain piggies they are.

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          2 years ago

          They’re still around but in a small number. They show their ass every now and then but mods are good :rosa-salute:

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Edit: I have been informed that LinkedIn does inline pronouns, but you have to opt in by setting your own pronouns

      :michael-laugh: Witness the utter soullessness of corporate fascists.

      • HexbearIntern [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Oh me? I majored in Neoliberal Design with a focus in Intersectional PR. My pronouns are he/him. This is my associate. She uses they/them pronouns.

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          2 years ago

          And meanwhile, as a trans woman who uses she/her, I get called "they" so fucking often.

          It really isn't a matter of people not understanding pronouns, is it? They're fucking up on purpose

          • HexbearIntern [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            The idea that you can’t just look and guess is apparently too inconvenient. Imagine fully expecting to being able to guess a stranger’s name and getting mad when you get it wrong. And yeah, a lot of them do do it on purpose. I feel like you can tell when people do it by accident

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      You can set pronouns in Zoom so it shows up next to your name on calls, but it's not mandatory.

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          2 years ago

          At the very least, many are doing that- that's what I do. But it might be that distinct pronouns are also an option, and people like me were just hacking it without realizing that