In an interview with Christiane Amanpour, President Uhuru Kenyatta claims that homosexuality is not an issue of human rights, but rather of "our own base as ...
I kind of see where he's coming from, really. What he's saying is that it doesn't really matter what he does or does not believe about LGBT+ rights if the people of the country are unwilling to accept them. Which seems basically right to me. Even if the government says it's cool, decriminalizes it, starts acknowledging gay marriages, and so on, that doesn't mean anything if it's still unsafe to be openly gay around your neighbors. So he's saying that it's not an issue he's able to focus on, regardless of his opinion, because there is such consensus about it among the people.
His point is that the issue is in the culture of the society as a whole, not the laws on the books which themselves only reflect that culture. And that as the culture changes, if it changes, so will the laws.
I don't know anything about this guy, he might be a raging homophobe and general piece of shit. But if so, this particular clip doesn't get that across very well to me.
yeah so you legalize it and then you instruct the police to terrorize the bigots. then you fire the entire police and create a new one, and instruct them to terrorize the bigots.
The culture doesn't change until it gets a kick in the ass from outside. They were homophobic for centuries, why would they change unless their culture changed? You think our own culture changed on its own without any outside help? They were still making jokes like "no homo bro" and "that's gay" until about 10 years ago. That didn't happen with "consensus about it among the people", it was done by a relentless agitation by good people who are on the right side of history.
gee i wonder why a new account that already has an entry in the modlog would try to create a struggle session pitting first world queers against the third world
The LGBTQ+’s great stumbling block in their stride toward freedom is not the raging homophobe, but the cishet moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with proactively changing the laws”; who parentalistically believes they can set the timetable for another person’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the queers to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will.
I kind of see where he's coming from, really. What he's saying is that it doesn't really matter what he does or does not believe about LGBT+ rights if the people of the country are unwilling to accept them. Which seems basically right to me. Even if the government says it's cool, decriminalizes it, starts acknowledging gay marriages, and so on, that doesn't mean anything if it's still unsafe to be openly gay around your neighbors. So he's saying that it's not an issue he's able to focus on, regardless of his opinion, because there is such consensus about it among the people.
His point is that the issue is in the culture of the society as a whole, not the laws on the books which themselves only reflect that culture. And that as the culture changes, if it changes, so will the laws.
I don't know anything about this guy, he might be a raging homophobe and general piece of shit. But if so, this particular clip doesn't get that across very well to me.
Legality is still extremely important. It makes it harder to fuck with lgbt people.
thats like saying anti-discrimination laws are not required because most people are racist
more like 'the laws wouldn't be enforced, nobody would care, so why bother spending political capital to do nothing?'
yeah so you legalize it and then you instruct the police to terrorize the bigots. then you fire the entire police and create a new one, and instruct them to terrorize the bigots.
the government has power, you know.
The culture doesn't change until it gets a kick in the ass from outside. They were homophobic for centuries, why would they change unless their culture changed? You think our own culture changed on its own without any outside help? They were still making jokes like "no homo bro" and "that's gay" until about 10 years ago. That didn't happen with "consensus about it among the people", it was done by a relentless agitation by good people who are on the right side of history.
also, a non-zero amount of violence against homophobes. huh. maybe we shouldn't have stopped that?
"from the outside" going mighty unexamined here. If you're not sure what that means, Christiane Amanpour sure is.
People who aren't Kenyan. People who aren't homophobes. People who support the progressive stack.
gee i wonder why a new account that already has an entry in the modlog would try to create a struggle session pitting first world queers against the third world
Wait is this retooled from MLK’s critique of the white moderate or is it from somewhere else?
retooled section of Letter from Birmingham Jail to be gender neutral and about LGBTQ rights
the former, literally a find+replace I think.
so the solution is to make homophobes and homophobic institutions sites of ultraviolence. bloody and terrible and fucking dangerous.
there's a chic-fil-a in hollywood with about four cops outside it at all times, constantly.
This account is less than 24 hours old and full of fed shit, but is also editing old comments, so I’m just copy-pasting :)
i am literally alan dulles. not even a ghost, just the actual guy.
I liked the stuff you said about killing slave owners