There is no number of foreigners that is unacceptable to sacrifice for a middle class livelihood. Anti-cop because they can imagine a scenario where a cop inconveniences them. These principles don't apply to the Waffen SS because they can't imagine a soldier personally inconveniencing them and, of course, foreigners aren't really humans.

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If I bomb a child in Afghanistan and then shake my head and say “I regret this,” then it should make you pity me and not be mad

    The only good American vets are the ones who acknowledge their sins and seek redemption through actions and not defend their time in the military and don’t get pissy when POC/foreigners are understandably wary of them as if they’re entitled to automatic forgiveness.

    “B-B-BUT MUH REVOLUTION!!!! MUH 1910 SOLDIERS!!!”

    Lol. We’re nowhere near a revolution. And if we are, then it’s time to shut up and nut up and show that you truly want to redeem yourselves and not just want a brand new Camaro at the expense of Muslim people.

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Also of note for 1910 soldier was it was forced conscription of youth to fight in a senseless meat grinder via trenches. Joining the military to get a cheap college degree and live a middle class lifestyle while bombing out a town somewhere in Iraq or Afghanistan is nowhere near fucking comparable (if you asked many of the Russian bottom wrung soldiers in WWI if they wanted to go home I'd bet a majority would say "fuck yes get me out of here so I can return to my village").

    • geikei [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Also its insanity to do any analogy and comparison between illiterate starving conscripted peasants and workers that saw the deaths of millions of their fellow citizens in a useless war and modern grunts of the most murderous and reactionary empire that get to do sex toursim all over the world while being rewarded with better conditions than 95% of their fellow citizens who themselves have better conditions than 95% of the foreign citizens those soldiers help opress and kill.

      How can anyone come out with an analysis that points to remotely similar class character and interests and remotely similar approaches and chances of "win over"

    • geikei [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Bringing back the classic from the old sub

      POV: Americans invade your country

      You see american choppers in the bright blue sky, hundreds and hundreds of screaming american soldiers drop from it, you look across the field and see the tanks rolling in. You hear a loud explosion and realise that the shrine you have protected for thousands of years with tooth and nail is destroyed by the empire, you come to the realisation that this is very probably the end of your people who've struggled to survive all these centuries.

      You realise that very soon there is going to be a river of blood of your people here; white phosphorus and depleted uranium will be shot very soon, deforming babies for decades to come, and millions of your people are gonna be killed. Your millennia old language and religion will be wiped out, you're very likely the last of your kind.

      Suddenly, an American soldier kicks you down, puts his foot on your neck and aims his standard ar-15 on the side of your head all while screaming; you realise you're gonna die, and you won't have to see the destruction of your community that you fostered so carefully all these centuries for.

      Just before he pulls the trigger, you think to yourself, "To be fair to him, he probably had a low GPA in highschool and didnt have a health-care, those are notoriously hard to get in America"