At this point he's just fucking with us.

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    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      Are you saying that Tesla won't have one million robotaxis on the road by the end of 2020? HOW DARE YOU!

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    No he honestly thought that if he just tried hard enough his company could break even more automotive safety laws, and his lawyers have taken this long pretending to look into solutions before finally admitting they can't

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Pretty sure his lawyers all have screeds and screeds of emails backed up on personal accounts wherein they told Musk that what he's doing is illegal.

      First rule of lawyering is always cover your own ass.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        I'm pretty sure he has been working without an in house legal team for years at this point. There was a reason that he was soliciting Twitter for legal advice during the Twitter buying fiasco.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          Nah, Tesla's legal team would work for Tesla, not Musk on a personal level. That said, I totally believe the idea that Musk would be so arrogant that he thinks he doesn't need lawyers for the Twitter transaction.

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    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      Pretty sure his fanboys are just pretending to like the design of the truck, similarly how Apple fanboys pretend the official Apple mouse and keyboard aren't total garbage.

      Brand loyalty brainworms are incredibly amusing.

      • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        official Apple mouse

        What if you have to put the cybertruck on its side and plug the cable into the bottom?

        • D61 [any]
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          2 years ago

          There's only one peddle and it is supposed to do everything from accelerate to steer.

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  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    The chapo boys have made this point a few times, Musk serves a very vital role in this late stage of capitalism. He's the embodiment of technocratic hope that the future under this system is anything but doomed, he's the guy the a particular brand of PMC and STEM types can hold on to like a rosary while everything continues to go to shit.

    So even though he literally cannot deliver on his promises and his cars are total crap - the QA on these "luxury" cars are horrendous, people are paying for cars more poorly made than a cheap major brand, to say nothing of the software - his company is still massively valued. Because Tesla as a company isn't a car manufacturer or a solar system engineering company or a software engineering firm at the frontier of AI it's just there to give people a false hope. So he can never be punished for failing to deliver or just straight up lieing. It doesn't matter if he does, he's fulfilling his role just by having made the statement.

    • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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      the QA on these “luxury” cars are horrendous

      Tesla manages to make Fiat/Chrysler's build quality look impressive.

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      He's exhausted his role and I have to assume he'll be phased out and replaced with New Guy in the next big business cycle. Dude's brain is pudding and he's only really good for celebrity gossip now.

      In the meantime, Tesla did what it was supposed to do. It paved the way for another two or three generations of car culture, under the premise that Electric Car is more practical than Bus or Train.

      The only thing that will really bring this system to its knees is the US losing access to cheap imports. That's going to hinge on us losing the Global South.

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    • RonJeremyCorbyn [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I mean, he's a lot of things, but i think being one of the world's best and most famous grifters, who is immensely more powerful than his father, disqualifies him from being a failson.

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        He’s speaking of his archetypal nature of “failson”. Many failsons are in positions of great power, sometimes even more than their parents. What makes a failson is imposter syndrome but real, they got their job through nepotism and can’t actually do the thing itself.

        Elon can’t turn a profit with Tesla. They are still behind 1990 Russian rocket tech with billions in subsidies with Space X. Hyperloop and Boring company is dumb meme shit that makes no sense and will never get made/loses tons of money. He keeps making promises to disaster torn areas or people stuck in caves and just actively makes things worse. Comrade Musk gave Ukrainians internet that the Russian intelligence services uses to get targets for months before Ukraine took their soldiers phones.

        Being a big pump-and-dump scam artist riding the crest of the wave doesn’t make him some genius, he just was in the right place at the right time for the conditions of capital and got lucky.

        • RonJeremyCorbyn [none/use name]
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          No, I am speaking of the archtypical def of failson, y'all are watering it down to the point of being much too overly broad and unhelpful.

          The run of the mill connections of the monied elite are only nepotism in the broadest way, and aren't sufficient conditions for a failson. That's just being wealthy. Engaging in business ventures that don't produce tangible goods; that's just the logic of late capitalism.

          Elon can’t turn a profit with Tesla.

          Literally who cares lol. And I agree he's not a genius, but wealthy non-genius does not a failson make. Capitalist parasite, yes; failson, no. (See other comment for examples).

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            • RonJeremyCorbyn [none/use name]
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              Lol. I care obviously about semantics and I care about our communal use of language. I dont care, and no one should, about the fundamentals about a musk company, insofar as this is an indicia of his success, because the market obviously doesn't. Musk turning a profit or not doesn't factor into his failure. And I say who cares because I would think it's evident to the posters here that this kind of success in a capitalist system has become wholely independent of creating a good product or whatever.

              If you wanna debate bro me feel free to go to the comment on which I engaged you.

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        • RonJeremyCorbyn [none/use name]
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          I think such a definition is just too broad. Just because he doesn't live up to the most attractive view of liberal meritocracy shouldnt define him as a "failson". He's certainly a goofus and his stans are really pitiable, but he's not living solely on his family name, he's not failing, he's not the kid who hid from the family at Thanksgiving or who takes a job at his daddy's company and just sits there with his dick in his hand.

          Eric Trump, getting his hand held by all his father's people, pretending to do business things all day-- sure failson. Koch brother scion, a huge loser, who was given money to run his own absurd garish shirt company, which certainly runs in the red, is a failson. Hunter, failing at every endeavor, needing a constant stream of handlers to avoid embarrassing his father, failson. AJ soprano, archtypically failson. Making the best of wealthy networking and schooling, wild success in business: that's just the way of the world.

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    2 years ago

    lmao, i knew that as soon as i saw it. that thing is the king of stupid truck ideas, even in a country with it's roads dominated by stupid truck ideas.

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  • pppp1000 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Absolutely no fucking way his Cybertruck sells for 40k when every other electric truck is 80k+ with the top variants going above 100k

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The fleet version of the F150 has an MSRP if $36k

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        Oh yeah. F150 Lightning has a starting price of 32.5k with tax credit. But remember when he said the Model 3 would be available for 30k? It starts at 47k right now.

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    as in it will cost more than $40k, not that it won't be released..... eventually