I think this is a good consolidated go-to for libs conversations, that at the end of the day, capitalism requires infinite growth with finite resources and that contradiction will ensure conflict, vs communism which requires environmental homeostasis and sustainable structures, which mitigates conflict (unless you're a capitalist lol)
There aren't even infinite resources in space :agony-shivering: and it takes a fuckton of resources to acquire resources from extraterrestrial sources :agony-acid:
I recall someone did the math and pointed out that even without ftl we could drain the entire galaxy of resources in under a million years assuming constant growth.
Money isn't real, so "infinite growth" is achievable. If you can value bad digital art at $69M an image, you can grow your economy by 3%/year for as long as you want.
The better question is what we're "growing" in an economy that seems more interested in "creative destruction" than building anything of lasting value. We can stack landfills on top of landfills forever and call it growth, just so long as the guys in charge of the landfills get to feel richer than they did last quarter.
My brother in christ, capitalism requires infinite growth and yet we are not on an infinite planet.
I think this is a good consolidated go-to for libs conversations, that at the end of the day, capitalism requires infinite growth with finite resources and that contradiction will ensure conflict, vs communism which requires environmental homeostasis and sustainable structures, which mitigates conflict (unless you're a capitalist lol)
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There aren't even infinite resources in space :agony-shivering: and it takes a fuckton of resources to acquire resources from extraterrestrial sources :agony-acid:
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Pretty sure fuckers were saying this 70 years ago, also 50 years ago, also 20 years ago... About resources on Earth.
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I recall someone did the math and pointed out that even without ftl we could drain the entire galaxy of resources in under a million years assuming constant growth.
Theyre emotionally and materially invested in it. Most libs are well off enough to sit in front of MSNBC for hours at a time.
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Money isn't real, so "infinite growth" is achievable. If you can value bad digital art at $69M an image, you can grow your economy by 3%/year for as long as you want.
The better question is what we're "growing" in an economy that seems more interested in "creative destruction" than building anything of lasting value. We can stack landfills on top of landfills forever and call it growth, just so long as the guys in charge of the landfills get to feel richer than they did last quarter.