Do you like, even watch anime at this point? Do you think when the average Japanese person watched Demon Slayer they were frustrated that the story featured younger characters instead of some 35yo salary man?
Do you think when millions of people watched SpyxFamily which predominantly featured a child as a main character last season they were instead reminiscing on the good old days of 1980s anime?
All of the criticism about the pedo side of the industry is all fine, accurate and justified, but this sort of circle jerk is realy just pathetic honestly.
It is almost like we need daily reminders that most people in Japan don't actualy care about Cowboy Bebop and Eva that much, and like it or not anime is made for them not us.
If you want to have a discussion that isn't the same circlejerk repeated without fail every time then maybe, maybe not, hey they even posted the Miyazaki quote elsewhere on the thread.
All media has gotten worse since the 70s in the US and the 90s in japan as the contradictions of capitlaism have intensified. The even the handfull of good anime are released despite thr market not because of it. The tears of the workers being being baked in only make it less worthy of faor consideration.
That's generally caused because nobody really ages out of watching the teen targeted stuff. Even today you can slap a 30+year old in front of Pokemon and they'll enjoy it like they were young and watching the first series again.
Since the older group doesn't age out but you still want to target the younger group, not much reason to exclude an audience by targeting only the older group.
All these decisions are economic. Especially in anime these days which is ruthlessly run by the publishing committees.
That's true but it's caused by the same effect. It doesn't hurt the teen audience but it does attract the adult audience, also provides internet marketing through sharing shit.
This is in fact also a problem in western media imo. More and more content is hyper-sexualised even targeted at younger audiences because the older audience watches the franchise still and never stopped.
None of the kids tv network targeted at teens ever was, Disney, Nickelodeon, even Cartoon Network. All the shows have teens or sometimes younger in them.
But this is the same era as the era of anime we're talking about. He-Man is 80s.
The point is how much it has changed. A lot of people will get the wrong perspective on new content in the west because of marvel movies, but the marvel shit is all a holdover from the 80s too.
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Anime design peaked in the late 90s-early 00s
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Even if Lina's outfit was horrid. It was such a great show
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Headband, giant orbs, clashing colors. I apologize for nothing.
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That it would only work in a world with fucking magic.
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Do you like, even watch anime at this point? Do you think when the average Japanese person watched Demon Slayer they were frustrated that the story featured younger characters instead of some 35yo salary man?
Do you think when millions of people watched SpyxFamily which predominantly featured a child as a main character last season they were instead reminiscing on the good old days of 1980s anime?
All of the criticism about the pedo side of the industry is all fine, accurate and justified, but this sort of circle jerk is realy just pathetic honestly.
It is almost like we need daily reminders that most people in Japan don't actualy care about Cowboy Bebop and Eva that much, and like it or not anime is made for them not us.
We need a daily reminder? This is so important we need to set aside a part of every day to meditate on this fact?
If you want to have a discussion that isn't the same circlejerk repeated without fail every time then maybe, maybe not, hey they even posted the Miyazaki quote elsewhere on the thread.
All media has gotten worse since the 70s in the US and the 90s in japan as the contradictions of capitlaism have intensified. The even the handfull of good anime are released despite thr market not because of it. The tears of the workers being being baked in only make it less worthy of faor consideration.
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Still true if you stick to seinen, everything else is targeted at teenagers so it looks like them too.
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That's generally caused because nobody really ages out of watching the teen targeted stuff. Even today you can slap a 30+year old in front of Pokemon and they'll enjoy it like they were young and watching the first series again.
Since the older group doesn't age out but you still want to target the younger group, not much reason to exclude an audience by targeting only the older group.
All these decisions are economic. Especially in anime these days which is ruthlessly run by the publishing committees.
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That's true but it's caused by the same effect. It doesn't hurt the teen audience but it does attract the adult audience, also provides internet marketing through sharing shit.
This is in fact also a problem in western media imo. More and more content is hyper-sexualised even targeted at younger audiences because the older audience watches the franchise still and never stopped.
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Counterpoint, in america media aimed at teenagers is full of only adults.
None of the kids tv network targeted at teens ever was, Disney, Nickelodeon, even Cartoon Network. All the shows have teens or sometimes younger in them.
He-man and GI were mostly afults. Every teen drama has actors that are like 30+
Bonus: GI Joe is anime.
But this is the same era as the era of anime we're talking about. He-Man is 80s.
The point is how much it has changed. A lot of people will get the wrong perspective on new content in the west because of marvel movies, but the marvel shit is all a holdover from the 80s too.
Good counterpoint
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