https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1559199186834186241
Best part of this whole thread is when he says “Actually pretty much everyone has eaten with a war criminal and to not understand this is to be historically ignorant” and then it turns out this is definitely more so because his dad was CIA and he works at Yale. So yeah turns out when you’re upper class and swimming in NATO infested waters you meet a lot of people with interesting opinions!
Has this guy never realised that, in fact, most people have not dined with a war criminal?
Count me out, I've eaten with former US armed forces personnel who performed work on its behalf post-WW2.
Look to your left. Now look to your right.
Both of those people are Hitler.
:michael-laugh: and this guy is arguing that its fine! We just have different opinions!
a lot of us had grandfathers who were in wwii and the US managed to do some shady shit even the one time they were the good guys
and then there's the extremely high chance of warcrimes if it was korea or viet nam, or a younger relative in a more recent war
True, didn't mean to exempt the people you're talking about. I was thinking more of how this guy hangs around with CIA/Yale type of criminals/ghouls which isn't the same experience as most people.
If you're American and you've eaten with a relative who served in the armed forces you probably have. I know I have, but it's not something I did cause I wanted to
I think you underestimate how many Americans have, in fact, dined with a war criminal. My ex’s uncle dropped fucking agent orange on top of who the fuck knows what other atrocities.
If you’ve ever seen one of those “Vietnam Veteran” hats you’ve walked past a war criminal.
When a terrifying percentage of the population are war criminals it’s hard to avoid having dined with one
:amerikkka:
He's written some really awful replies. IMO this one stands out: https://twitter.com/jasonintrator/status/1559246706235121664?cxt=HHwWgIC9pcenx6MrAAAA
And of course you have reactionary fuckers in the replies talking about how the "mob" doesn't understand "nuance" in the context of these people wanting to kill black folk.
Oh yeah huge smug asshole on top of it, and it’s pretty clear he was angling for this reaction too for a new article. Never get high off your own article supply folks. Very good indicator for the future when smug liberal assholes who write books called like “Fascism; Served with a Smile and a Piece of American Pie” nobody reads are now angling for conservative culture war bullshit. My favorite reply was definitely “Oh you might call me a little piggy pain sucker, but HAVE YOU written articles?!”
The only way I'm having a polite dinner with a former member of the SS is if I get to prepare the food.
after losing?
I hotly contest the idea that the Nazis lost. They got the ethnic cleansing they desired, the big industrialists all got off scot-free then got filthy fucking rich off the Marshall Plan, and most of the country's civil service and government was staffed by Nazis for decades after the war. All the Nazis lost was a bunch of working class labor that they just replaced with immigrants who are kept as a permanent underclass.
idk an awful lot of them ended up in :pit: and they delivered half of europe into the arms of socialism
True, but not the big financial and business backers that benefited from the Nazi project of corporatism and privatization. Lots of indoctrinated soldiers died in fields in Eastern Europe, but the big businessmen, the judges, the cops, the teachers, they all did fine. Even most of the Nazis in politics did fine; The purge in the West only snipped off the tiniest number of high ranking Nazis. There were still 8 million living Nazi party members in Germany at the conclusion of the war.
True, they didn't get their lebensraum, and they didn't manage to kill all the Poles, but they didn't need it after the death of so many working class Nazis.
I take this position because I see clear parallels to the way the Confederacy "Lost the war but won the peace" in the United States.
Edited to replace "brainwashed" with "indoctrinated". Brainwashing was made up by the US to explain why captured US soldiers in Korea were critical of the US and supportive of the DPRK.
not being punished is not the same as 'winning the peace' like in US. the US fought a war over slavery and ended up keeping the institution & most of its victims immiserated.
the Nazi ideological project explicitly failed. even in west germany. profiteers kept money, genociders escaped punishment--but the central axes of Nazism, the extermination of minorities, defeat of communism, expansion of the german state, utter abject failure.
we've got to take some pride in that, and never stop reminding their ideological descendants they were brought low by the people they consider less than themselves. :cat-com:
The Soviet Union did end up being destroyed, they didcarry out lbensraum (look at eastern Europe now and how many people are migrant laborers), and Germany is stil the most powerful European country (and the entire population of The West supports the same faxcistix white supremacy as ever).
didcarry out lbensraum
no. just no.
and the nazis didn't dismantle the Soviet Union, the liberals did :ooooooooooooooh: so its still a nazi failure
most powerful yankee puppet is a very far cry from rulers of europe & beyond, that's also still a nazi failure
nazis didn’t dismantle the Soviet Union, the liberals did
That doesn't seem very accurate if you actually look at who was on the ground and behind a lot of the color revolutions. The "liberal" aspect of it was partially a facade.
They lost all territorial expansion and their leader killed himself in a bunker knowing Stalin would beat him to death otherwise.
Reject modernity
Return to Castle Wolfenstein :pit: :stalin-gun-1::gigachad-hd:
Precisely why Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin, just encapsulated so perfectly
Say what you will about Hannibal Lecter, but his table manners were impeccable and the liver with fava beans was delicious.
This is extra ironic because this dude is a philosophy professor who wrote books about the importance of anti-fascism.
Doesn't suprise me at all. Liberal professors are the most ineffectual people on the planet - I'm sure he wrote about the importance of anti-fascism purely from some Habbermasian POV because it's import for "discourse." And he wrote it while having brunch with his Gestapo friends.
I think you're spot on. This dude wrote a tweet saying "I would regard myself as an abject failure if people are still not reading my work in 200 years" It seems like his work on fascism is purely to carve out a legacy.
I don't understand what it is about social media that compels these people to tell on themselves
I think people have always been like this but Social Media just gives them an audience big enough to embarrass themselves.
Huh....yeah I can see sitting down to a polite meal with a member of the Waffen SS who served on the Eastern front. I'd get popcorn and he can have the
noosegoose.What's that German saying about a table with ten people but one of them is a Nazi?
Path of Exile lol I talk about it here a lot since I deleted my Reddit account.
I mean you do kill a lot of slavers in that game but I'm not philosophically literate enough to understand if it's trying to make a coherent statement about anything, maybe some Nietzschean will to power stuff.
Eh, it's a little bothsidesey because the slave rebellion becomes corrupted by a ravenous god that turns most of the rebels into cannibals. I don't know if there really is any coherent reading you could make of the game's storyline. I don't know every little detail about the lore but I'm pretty familiar with the narrative of the game and I can't make heads or tails of it politically.
Plains of Eidolon is pretty neat. I love chasing Kuakas around with the tranq rifle.
He is such an iconic character. I hope they get some new content for him some day.
