Who would gain from a civil war? Sure, some screaming chuds in Trump hats would feel good about it but these people don't get to have political influence, they are just the useful idiots for a sector of the bourgeoisie.
For a civil war to happen you need the support of people with real power and the ability to supply an army to be in on the idea and the rich and powerful are very happy about the status quo. They already get everything they want so why would they do something risky like a civil war?
For a civil war to happen in the US you would need a federal government that was likely to follow proletarian class politics and threaten the bourgeoisie.
The actual ACW was instigated by the southern ruling elite, who were getting basically all of their demands met, who were economically reliant on the north, and who had next to zero chances of winning a war against the more populous and industrialized north.
If enough of the bourgeoisie are insane, it doesn't matter that they have nothing to gain.
this. Soyviking is right that the dominant strain of thought among the bourgeoisie is that domestic uprisings are bad for business, but they’re a much wider and more nuanced class in society than just the Bill Gates’ and Jeff Bezos’ of the world. local petite bourgeois interests (think car dealership owners, small restaurant chain operators, sometimes landlords) and a lot of extractive capital interests out west (think mining/logging company execs, cattle ranchers) are the ones rallying behind the far right figures in the USA today like Trump, Cawthorn, Boebert, and MTG. small capital seeking to overturn or speak over national/international capital has historically been a key feature of fascism, and it doesn’t just take the actual threat of leftist victories to make them a threat. they’re paranoid and irrational— simply the illusion or fear that ‘leftists’ or whatever force they’re afraid is corrupting the nation are making gains can incite them to violence. the holocaust didn’t happen because jews were secretly controlling and destroying germany, it happened because the Nazis and the armed mass/network of militias like the brownshirts convinced themselves they were.
civil war can happen here, very suddenly, and very brutally. millions of americans are willing to die and kill to ‘Make America Great Again’, and they’re not going to ask Wall Street or Washington’s permission to do so if they decide its time for their region of the US to secede.
civil war can happen here, very suddenly, and very brutally. millions of americans are willing to die and kill to ‘Make America Great Again’
tbh let 'em fuck around and find out
Germany was not even 1% Jewish when the holocaust happened
this shopping mall is roughly 35% some flavor of existence that triggers them and gun ownership is widespread
if they tried to go holocaust you'd witness the complete and utter destruction of the US, and I don't even mean losing a war style, I mean depopulated by 40% and never coming back, Aztlan restored, Chinese California, etc
Another reason why I don't think chuds would start a civil war is that they won't have to. They can just take over the existing state. Who would put up a fight if the fascist supreme court declared that Joe Fascist is now the president? Liberals are too feckless, the left are too few. As long as the fash commits to upholding the institutional veneers of the US constitution they could take over everything with minimal resistance.
For a civil war to happen in the US you would need a federal government that was likely to follow proletarian class politics
They already get everything they want so why would they do something risky like a civil war?
mayos hate non-white people more than they love money
even the briefest reading of US history should make this abundantly clear
Who would gain from a civil war? Sure, some screaming chuds in Trump hats would feel good about it but these people don't get to have political influence, they are just the useful idiots for a sector of the bourgeoisie.
For a civil war to happen you need the support of people with real power and the ability to supply an army to be in on the idea and the rich and powerful are very happy about the status quo. They already get everything they want so why would they do something risky like a civil war?
For a civil war to happen in the US you would need a federal government that was likely to follow proletarian class politics and threaten the bourgeoisie.
The actual ACW was instigated by the southern ruling elite, who were getting basically all of their demands met, who were economically reliant on the north, and who had next to zero chances of winning a war against the more populous and industrialized north.
If enough of the bourgeoisie are insane, it doesn't matter that they have nothing to gain.
this. Soyviking is right that the dominant strain of thought among the bourgeoisie is that domestic uprisings are bad for business, but they’re a much wider and more nuanced class in society than just the Bill Gates’ and Jeff Bezos’ of the world. local petite bourgeois interests (think car dealership owners, small restaurant chain operators, sometimes landlords) and a lot of extractive capital interests out west (think mining/logging company execs, cattle ranchers) are the ones rallying behind the far right figures in the USA today like Trump, Cawthorn, Boebert, and MTG. small capital seeking to overturn or speak over national/international capital has historically been a key feature of fascism, and it doesn’t just take the actual threat of leftist victories to make them a threat. they’re paranoid and irrational— simply the illusion or fear that ‘leftists’ or whatever force they’re afraid is corrupting the nation are making gains can incite them to violence. the holocaust didn’t happen because jews were secretly controlling and destroying germany, it happened because the Nazis and the armed mass/network of militias like the brownshirts convinced themselves they were.
civil war can happen here, very suddenly, and very brutally. millions of americans are willing to die and kill to ‘Make America Great Again’, and they’re not going to ask Wall Street or Washington’s permission to do so if they decide its time for their region of the US to secede.
tbh let 'em fuck around and find out
Germany was not even 1% Jewish when the holocaust happened this shopping mall is roughly 35% some flavor of existence that triggers them and gun ownership is widespread
if they tried to go holocaust you'd witness the complete and utter destruction of the US, and I don't even mean losing a war style, I mean depopulated by 40% and never coming back, Aztlan restored, Chinese California, etc
Another reason why I don't think chuds would start a civil war is that they won't have to. They can just take over the existing state. Who would put up a fight if the fascist supreme court declared that Joe Fascist is now the president? Liberals are too feckless, the left are too few. As long as the fash commits to upholding the institutional veneers of the US constitution they could take over everything with minimal resistance.
mayos hate non-white people more than they love money
even the briefest reading of US history should make this abundantly clear