:google-cool: :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
yeah... really it's a webdev problem. every web developer assumes nigh-infinite resources, including the ones who make the nightmare javascript frameworks that everyone fuckin uses. must be even worse if you don't have adblock...
I've never seen FF use anywhere near that much memory. Could be a larger issue with your system. Though I also compulsively close unused tabs
It's probably largely my fault - I leave tabs open and have multiple google web apps up at the same time.
Try the Tab Unloader add-on. Rather than deal with the agony of closing tabs you want to read later, it just unloads them from memory after a few minutes of inactivity. You could have hundreds all stacked up and basically taking up no resources!
Hot damn that is a game changer. Thanks for the rec and also enabling my bad browser habits.
Probably going to convert by the end of the year since they're reportedly banning adblock extensions then
Fuuuck that, the internet is borderline unusable without ublock
Yeah, if they do that, I'm switching to Firefox. Not just for the sake of my sanity, but because an adblocker is the best antivirus you can have.
i've been putting off switching but if ublock stops working im changing defaults immediately
The situation is much more complex than that. they are replacing an API (webRequest) with another one (declarativeNetRequest) and will going forward only support this new API under what's called Manifest V3.
So why bother with this change? The webRequest API is actually very powerful. It can do something like modify network requests before the browser itself has a chance to process them. You can imagine how a malicious extension can exploit this, by modifying the requests before the browser even knows it's happened. But a functional result of this change, due to the details of DNR, is that adblockers will be far less powerful. The situation isn't as extreme as when the original specification for ManifestV3 was announced, but it's still far from what it needs to be to get something as high quality as uBlock Origin to work correctly.
tl;dr use Firefox.
[slaps forehead] it was right there, lowercase D made my brain short out
lol I have 9 tabs in FF open right now -- 1.6gb of memory used -- highest program using memory rn.
2nd highest is Final Fantasy XIV which I usually have sitting minimized and logged in somewhere -- half a gig.
3rd highest is shockingly Google Chrome which I use for work. 14 tabs open, 371mb of RAM used.
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9 active tabs. I have 100 dating back to 15 hours ago in Tab Wrangler and the only reason it isn't higher is because who really needs a history of the last 200 tabs they left open for longer than 10 minutes :deeper-sadness:
i have 140+ tabs open at all times
edit: most of them are manga/anime I wanted to read but haven't in months
800mb ram usage 😎
wtf i just saw your edit and i'm begging you, my comrade, to just use bookmarks instead :kitty-cri-screm:
If you think that's bad, i've got over 1k. It truly is suffering going through them all, but I can't bring myself to close them.
I am also an extreme tab hoarder. I think to myself "I might want/need to come back to this one sometime" for 75% of the pages I open. "I'll go through them and close them... later." Yeah right. Then they're still there a year on and I can't close them even then out of a sense of either nostalgia or because it's just too overwhelming. I have a problem, I know.
that's too many tabs, I limit myself to 149 because any more than that and I can't actually close the tab without using the tab search thing
I need to go through them tbh a lot of the anime tabs are defunct because gogoanime decided to shit itself or something and then the tabs reloaded and it's like GREAT WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT TAB SUPPOSED TO BE but I guess chrome saved the history so I can go back if I need to
I also have a shitload of bookmarks
80 tabs? I regularly max out my tabs so that browser will literally not allow me to open more
I'm guessing you're watching videos on FF or social media? That would explain it.
Nay most of the tabs were actually Hexbear and then one of Twitter LOL. I think what actually is causing FF to eat so much is the number of extensions I have as well as a few specific memory hogs included in that number. I don't think UBlock or Greasemonkey is likely eating much for example, but Tab Wrangler with its history of the last 100 tabs it has closed out after being inactive for longer than 10 minutes is probably the culprit lol.
Meanwhile on Chrome I don't even have an ad-blocker installed because it interferes with work. Still surprising though because I tend to have Slack, Jira, etc open constantly in Chrome hence why I had 14 tabs open.
Death to Chrome, but idle RAM doesn't do you any favors either. Might as well cache shit there if nothing else is using it. This makes the browser more responsive, and can reduce the amount of data used by pulling something from the cache instead of downloading it all over again. What I'm more curious about is how these browsers respond when other applications are started up and request large pools of memory. Say I've got 4GB free out of 8, and I start up a game which uses 6GB. How friendly is Chrome/Firefox going to behave? Or will the OS kernel need to sic the OOM killer on them?
I have 4 Firefox windows open, each with like 30+ tabs. 2 GB. What Firefox are all you doubters using?
Unfortunately, Google also managed to get Mozilla's next-generation web engine, Servo, killed by threatening to tear up their default search contract with Mozilla and (along with Covid) causing hundreds of lay-offs. While Firefox remains very good, Mozilla as an organization is incapable of throwing the amount of resources at Firefox that Google is capable of redirecting from the couch cushions of their various monopolies towards Chrome. The status quo is not tenable in the long run, and trending towards full monopoly.
Just want a keyboard-centric Servo-based browser :programming-communism:
Wait… there are reasons to use Firefox other than immediate self interest and convenience?
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I have friends who leave a bajillion chrome tabs open 24/7 and I don't understand how their RAM sticks haven't burned out.
Not a chrome user but isn't Microsoft deliberately nerfing any browser other than Edge to make it look bad? I found chrome ran fine on my work computer (the place where I am forced to used Windows) until a few years back when Windows 10 updates started to result in Edge being pushed on me nonstop and chrome/firefox/etc. suddenly eating way more RAM.
Chrome currently using ~2GB RAM, I only have 26GB free memory left oh nooo :/
Never quit the habits of only having what applications are necessary running from the ol' win98 days so it's never come up. Clean livin'.
I remember in 2012, I thought chrome sucked because restoring session would open ALL tabs at once, eating up like 4 GB RAM, while firefox only opened the tab you were on when the session closed, and kept all other tabs in memory
it's 10 years later and they still didn't do anyting about it
