https://twitter.com/HamiltonWestEnd/status/1567944847599755273

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Hamilton is about epic American founding fathers rapping and there were happy black people and that's All That Happened

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      2 years ago

      I mean more or less, yeah. My brother's girlfriend made me watch it and it certainly wasn't about actual American history.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Well Les Miz isn't about the cool French Revolution, and in places endorses the idea that the Republicans wanted "too much change", so that kinda tracks.

      • Vncredleader [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        What the June Revolution was cool. It's the one that further popularized the Red Flag for leftism, particularly cause the state was using the tricolor. It was the Jacobin flag, but this sorta furthered it as opposed to just a mere republic, and embodied something radical

  • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Libs are incredible, I can't even imagine the mental gymnastics required for this shit

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      2 years ago

      Barely disguised white supremacy and contempt for the rest of the world

    • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      a murderous evil guy, when he had basically the same amount of power as the recently departed bozo.

      and he only presided over 1 independence war. Liz did like, 6

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        And it was against their own settlers because the settlers wanted to settle more, not against the colonized people. It’s not hard to argue that the British were the lesser evil in the US Revolutionary War

        • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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          2 years ago

          i dont think the narrative that britain was going to meaningfully stymie colonial advance holds water. the context is literally after they'd annexed Canada, a very large expansion of colonial territory. the thing was not apportioning the conquered territory toward the great lakes to the 13 colonies or Canada yet, and the adjacent colonies who felt like they 'earned' the territory with their militias' piss poor performance in the war decided it was a grievance.

          a policy aiming to keep the Canadians from revolting ends up giving Virginian landowners a reason to. but like, theyd have been just as pissed if Britian let New York expand over Virginia

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    It is amazing how degenerative modern liberal philosophy is, might as well have no difference between them and conservative monarchists.

    • Florn [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Bar a few radicals, liberalism has always been like this.

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Liberalism is at this point in history the conservative ideology, but libs sometimes like to pretend that it is a revolutionary ideology like when it fought against feudalism, but not too much revolutionary lest the poors get some funny ideas.

  • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Fun bit I learned from the skeptics guide to American history: during the lead up to the American revolution king George was actually incredibly popular. Really America owes it's independence and total separation to the fact that it was largely a proxy war between France and Britain as retribution for the French and Indian war.

    Point being: Americans have always been simps for the royals.

    • Vncredleader [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      From Kaye's book on Paine

      Even the Boston radical Joseph Warren, who would die just a few months later at Bunker Hill, maintained that "an independence on Great Britain is not our aim. No, our wish is, that Britain and the Colonies may like oak and ivy grow and increase in strength together." As late as November 1775 Thomas Jefferson wrote that "there is not in the British Empire a man who more cordially loves a union with Great Britain than I do." And George Washington continued to toast George III at dinners with his officers"

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    1 year ago

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  • neera_tanden [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    This is so fucking sad. Think about all she did for the people of South Africa, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Kenya and the Caribbean!

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    2 years ago

    HamiltonWestEnd

    the idea of gormless british libs going to see a schoolhouse rock show about the american revolution is really funny. i wonder if they all cheer when king george comes on and does his gay little softshoe routine or whatever.

    • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Hamilton would suck very, very slightly less if instead of the British being dorky white guys they were Grime rappers. It would still massively suck tho.

      Obviously much like nuclear war in the movie Wargames the only winning move is to never make it at all but if you have to portray Thomas fucking Jefferson of all people as a rapping black guy you might as well portray King George III as a British rapping black guy, if that makes sense.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        2 years ago

        man it would suck less if an actual rapper wrote the lyrics instead of a theater nerd. daveed diggs was literally right there and they have him saying the weakest bars.

  • Vncredleader [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Yes its about transferring power from one elite to the local elite. Washington was still earnestly toasting to the king's health INTO the war

  • Vampire [any]
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    2 years ago

    Alexander Hamilton was an admirer of the monarchy and wanted to create an American aristocracy.