Breaking Bad came out in the late 2000s and this was a time when being "politically incorrect" was epic - and by politically incorrect I mean just punching down and being hateful. Slurs for disabled people were used without any meaningful pushback, and at least in my experience, kids were happily reciting lines from South Park and Family Guy at school and mocking kids from SpEd classes. These things still obviously happen today, but now there seems to be more criticism of when it happens and even the "anti pc" crowd will hesitantly shut up if called out.

Anyway, Walt Jr. has cerebral palsy, but unlike much of the media of the time, he isn't the butt of the joke (aside from that one scene in the store but the bully got his ass kicked) or made cynically by someone who doesn't care or know anything about the disability to get a cheap emotional response from audience. Obviously he doesn't have an identical life to someone who is fully able bodied, but overall he's just a kid with his own angst and goals who just happens to be different. Sometimes he needs assistance, sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes his parents struggle to relate and help him (both for his disability and puberty in general) and that's just life, especially for a lower income family that doesn't have access to all the resources or free time to discuss problems.

I'm not surprised that they made :dean-malice: racist because he's a DEA agent, but rewatching it I'm surprised they didn't make Walt Jr. a caricature because most people wouldn't have bat an eye.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    i admit i haven't watched the show, but the inciting incident is Walter White getting cancer, right? if the show affirmed the idea that physical infirmity or needing help from others makes someone inherently lesser, i feel like that would severely undercut any moral ambiguity it has.

    • kingspooky [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      IIRC the inciting incident is Walter White getting cancer and treatment not being covered by insurance. Not so much needing help making him lesser as it is the nightmare that is the American healthcare system creating a drug kingpin. Been many years though, could be misremembering.

      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The whole point of Schwartz offering him to pay for it is to show you no, he is not forced into this by any external means. He does this because he's got weird hang ups about masculinity.

        I know it can be tempting to paint it as a critique of the american healthcare, especially as a leftist, but the show makes it very clear it is not about that, almost to a point of breaking down the 4th wall to have Walter say it straight to the camera at the end.

        • neo [he/him]
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          While you're very right about Walt and Schwartz, there's no denying that the inciting incident and rising action of BB wouldn't work within an America with universal healthcare. Walt didn't want the handout from someone he has old, embittered feeling towards, sure. But if we lived in a sane society where everyone had access to free healthcare at the point of service Walt would've just gotten healthcare the normal way, because that's just what everyone would do. And he wouldn't be staring down massive medical debt. Financing his healthcare and avoiding that debt and financial hardship for his family was how he got started with cooking meth.

          In other words, the show would've had to come up with a different premise to get to its destination. In this country there's a few ways that someone can get innocently bankrupted, and medical debt is probably #1. But again, I agree with you that the show isn't making a point of critiquing the american healthcare system. This is all inference.

          • 7bicycles [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            If Breaking Bad was set somewhere else he'd still have his whole "I need to provide for my family in the event of my death" thing going on as an excuse to go out and start cooking meth, really. I mean you could just as well argue Breaking Bad is about how teachers are underpaid and in dire need of widowers pensions in that sense, it fits as well as the healthcare does, it just doesn't really come up in the series

            • neo [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I don't think that makes sense. I mean just imagine how much Walt Jr's healthcare must've costed them before we are even introduced to the characters. What if that was never a cost? With a proper healthcare system Walt dying wouldn't double punish his family by removing him as a provider as he incurs medical debts while he tries to treat his cancer.

              The fact that he was a low earning school teacher didn't incite him to start making drugs. Not even the fact that he got cancer. The fact that he was facing debt from medical care is what set things off. Like I said, in a different country the premise of the show would have to change, because there would have to be some justification to get him to have his first taste in illicit activity.

              • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                When Walter does his calculations as to how much money he'll need to make, Walt Jr's healthcare doesn't even pop up. Either it's a non issue or Walter doesn't give a shit.

                The fact that he was a low earning school teacher didn’t incite him to start making drugs. Not even the fact that he got cancer. The fact that he was facing debt from medical care is what set things off.

                That was an excuse. By how he's portrayed, he'd have found another one eventually

          • 7bicycles [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Would he though? His whole "trying to provide for my family" thing is just cover in the end, he straight up admits that. He did the Meth thing cause he was good at it and he always felt like he'd been cheated out of reaping the rewards of being that good a chemist. I don't think there's really an equivalent here that'd land you at being a casanova or counting cards.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        There is the additional bit where his old business partner who he seems to have had some degree of bad blood with in the past offers to cover the medical expenses, couched in a job offer to try to avoid offending Walter's pride. It sets up that he really, really didn't need to do all he did, and that he instead actively makes the conscious choice to live out some toxic power fantasy.

    • Dawn_Beveridge [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Well in the first few episodes a friend offers to cover his healthcare, but Walt makes the choice to become a Meth Kingpin instead, ruining his entire life and family on the way. So I don't think the show really endorses the lone wolf mentality ( but some of the fans do seem to ).

      • spectre [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's a bit tenuous to call their relationship "just a friend" though

          • spectre [he/him]
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            It's kind of a one way thing, Walt is the one carrying all the resentment toward them that would make it near impossible for him to accept their assistance.

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