currently being yelled at for "denying genocide" 🙃

          • Bob [he/him,he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The problem is in a political unstable climate where the government VERY MUCH WANTS TO TOPPLE CHINA, and has for a long time since the British empire, saying "fuck china" en masse is making that a lot more likely, so pushing back against it is critical. No one gives a fuck if you personally can logically hold the position that china bad but also US bad, the point is what espousing that position in the west, unrebutted, means for the world.

              • Bob [he/him,he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Leftists aren't immune to imperialism, in fact probably most leftists in the US tacitly support various imperial efforts. Have you seen leftist discourse on HK?

                Also it's not about converting me, it's about pushing back against a cultural feeling that will then be used to further justify imperial action.

                Leading up to the Iraq war I'm sure tons of leftists in "leftist spaces" were talking about how Saddam is a bad dude and fuck Iraq, etc. In fact I know they were, and in fact those same leftists were also writing articles about it.

                If you're in the west, you can't affect China's domestic policy but you can contribute to the cultural mood of your own country, so it's a lot more important to PUSH BACK AGAINST EMPIRE than it is to make sure all of your buddies know you're being maximally logically coherent by acknowledging all the goody good marks of one country as well as another. We don't need an accurate pros and cons list of each, we need a real coordinated pushback against Clinton and co's "Pacific Century."

              • gayhobbes [he/him]
                2·
                4 years ago

                Why don't you just read up on it instead of shitting on someone for their very qualified stance

                  • gayhobbes [he/him]
                    2·
                    4 years ago

                    Yeah kiddo, I'm sorry that the real world is going to ask you to actually read up on the toxic shit you've been fed, but maybe do the research instead of parroting the CIA.

                      • gayhobbes [he/him]
                        2·
                        4 years ago

                        You could just read the fucking thing and decide for yourself instead of taking the word of someone who, by her own admission, DIDN'T EVEN READ IT.

                          • gayhobbes [he/him]
                            2·
                            4 years ago

                            Bro, what's up for discussion here is that there's NO UYGHUR GENOCIDE HAPPENING. Pull your head out of your ass and read up on that. I'm not asking you to fucking blow Xi Jinping.

                              • gayhobbes [he/him]
                                2·
                                4 years ago

                                But then you shared a source that falsely claimed that it depicted China detaining Uyghurs so I imagine you can see how that muddies the waters, buuuuddy.