I agree with you. Its honestly trendy on here to be like "all electoralism bad, lose your chains". It ignores our current reality. That reality is there is no possible way for a leftist revolution to go besides Jakarta style right now. People want to sit on their hands playing "who's the most pure revolutionary" game and its not going to accomplish shit. Mutual aid, community defense, and organization outside the electoral frame work is all extremely important but right now, only one of those frameworks are making laws and effecting material reality on a large scale. Both can exist and both should be a focus. like, It would be genuinely helpful, no matter how shitty the FBI is, if they kept an eye on fasc/white supremacist terrorism.
I really don't want to vote for Biden, especially when I remember the painful box check for Hillary in 2016. At the end of the day, its important to vote for local progressive candidates and shit, you're already there, just check the box, its no skin off your back.
I fucking hate Biden. I literally cried after Super Tuesday. OVER POLITICS! Such lib shit. But ignoring the elections does the left no favors and, historically, has only led to an even more empowered right wing. The Nazis rose when the German Communists were so disgusted with the Social Democrats and Centre Party that they basically sat out the 1933 election, preferring instead fo fight Nazis directly on the streets. Noble idea, but OOPS, they got actual motherfucking Hitler and ended up being the first people to be sent to camps. BIG OOF
Mutual aid, community defense, and organization outside the electoral frame work is all extremely important but right now, only one of those frameworks are making laws and effecting material reality on a large scale.
Exactly, the left is so weak right now because we don't actually have any of that national organizing we need to actually defeat the entrenched interests of capital in politics. We needed to do this shit decades ago, and the Black Panthers and a number of organizations originally did before the FBI broke them up. We not only need them to organize concentrated political power, but we need them to survive as the government continues to retreat from any responsibility for the welfare of its citizens.
Both can exist and both should be a focus. like, It would be genuinely helpful, no matter how shitty the FBI is, if they kept an eye on fasc/white supremacist terrorism.
Or just having someone not directly ordering the DHS to be more Gestapo-like every day, that would be immensely helpful. Biden will likely just keep it as fascist as it already is and that sucks but it's better than what Trump is and will do with it since it's one of the few Federal Agencies that does whatever he says without complaint or hesitation.
At the end of the day, its important to vote for local progressive candidates and shit, you’re already there, just check the box, its no skin off your back.
I'm not sure if I will end up voting for Biden since I'm in California and there is no universe where even the worst election rigging hands California to Trump, plus I don't want to contribute to Biden's national popular vote, simply because the Democrats will use it as a weapon to gaslight the left into thinking they're vastly outnumbered by Biden supporters and should shut up. However, I can see the possibility that even my shitty popular vote contribution will be used to prevent Trump from easily stealing the election by running up the difference between popular votes and electoral college votes.
I mean, this just fucking sucks. We're facing the end of the world and our champion against it is the man who led us here and is now promising to lead us back if we just blindly trust him again. However, I want liberals to win so they cannot complain anymore about how obviously dogshit the country is, but then pinning it entirely on Trump. I want them to know that, actually, the country was fucked the whole time and even when you get your way and get Biden, the fuckening doesn't stop at all. Unlike Obama, Biden is not popular or well liked and he's an awful speaker, both boring and untrustworthy. I can easily see a very, very hostile public reacting to a Biden administration. I want to make that old man lose his hair plugs from stress. I want him to see molotov cocktails being thrown over the White House lawn. I want him to get his wish and for it to be the least satisfying thing he's ever accomplished. I fucking hate this man and I desperately want to spend 4 years bullying the shitlibs mercilessly until they leave politics entirely for being too mean.
I agree with you. Its honestly trendy on here to be like "all electoralism bad, lose your chains". It ignores our current reality. That reality is there is no possible way for a leftist revolution to go besides Jakarta style right now. People want to sit on their hands playing "who's the most pure revolutionary" game and its not going to accomplish shit. Mutual aid, community defense, and organization outside the electoral frame work is all extremely important but right now, only one of those frameworks are making laws and effecting material reality on a large scale. Both can exist and both should be a focus. like, It would be genuinely helpful, no matter how shitty the FBI is, if they kept an eye on fasc/white supremacist terrorism.
I really don't want to vote for Biden, especially when I remember the painful box check for Hillary in 2016. At the end of the day, its important to vote for local progressive candidates and shit, you're already there, just check the box, its no skin off your back.
I fucking hate Biden. I literally cried after Super Tuesday. OVER POLITICS! Such lib shit. But ignoring the elections does the left no favors and, historically, has only led to an even more empowered right wing. The Nazis rose when the German Communists were so disgusted with the Social Democrats and Centre Party that they basically sat out the 1933 election, preferring instead fo fight Nazis directly on the streets. Noble idea, but OOPS, they got actual motherfucking Hitler and ended up being the first people to be sent to camps. BIG OOF
Exactly, the left is so weak right now because we don't actually have any of that national organizing we need to actually defeat the entrenched interests of capital in politics. We needed to do this shit decades ago, and the Black Panthers and a number of organizations originally did before the FBI broke them up. We not only need them to organize concentrated political power, but we need them to survive as the government continues to retreat from any responsibility for the welfare of its citizens.
Or just having someone not directly ordering the DHS to be more Gestapo-like every day, that would be immensely helpful. Biden will likely just keep it as fascist as it already is and that sucks but it's better than what Trump is and will do with it since it's one of the few Federal Agencies that does whatever he says without complaint or hesitation.
I'm not sure if I will end up voting for Biden since I'm in California and there is no universe where even the worst election rigging hands California to Trump, plus I don't want to contribute to Biden's national popular vote, simply because the Democrats will use it as a weapon to gaslight the left into thinking they're vastly outnumbered by Biden supporters and should shut up. However, I can see the possibility that even my shitty popular vote contribution will be used to prevent Trump from easily stealing the election by running up the difference between popular votes and electoral college votes.
I mean, this just fucking sucks. We're facing the end of the world and our champion against it is the man who led us here and is now promising to lead us back if we just blindly trust him again. However, I want liberals to win so they cannot complain anymore about how obviously dogshit the country is, but then pinning it entirely on Trump. I want them to know that, actually, the country was fucked the whole time and even when you get your way and get Biden, the fuckening doesn't stop at all. Unlike Obama, Biden is not popular or well liked and he's an awful speaker, both boring and untrustworthy. I can easily see a very, very hostile public reacting to a Biden administration. I want to make that old man lose his hair plugs from stress. I want him to see molotov cocktails being thrown over the White House lawn. I want him to get his wish and for it to be the least satisfying thing he's ever accomplished. I fucking hate this man and I desperately want to spend 4 years bullying the shitlibs mercilessly until they leave politics entirely for being too mean.