Hearsay but someone on GenZedong mentioned going to one of the earlier meetings and then leaving after someone got booed out for just saying the word "hierarchy" without any negative qualifiers.
And that is ABSOLUTELY the reason it fell apart, not being fucking besieged literally every fucking night by riot police and/or chuds. That only happens to muh organized ML projects
You realize that those are inevitable conditions for a dissident project, right? Like what good is your project if it can't withstand expected attacks? Do you think there will ever be a time that the police wouldn't fuck with you and then you could be successful? The idea behind having a structured apparatus is that it can better withstand those outside pressures.
"CHAZ was bad because it wasn't structured so it was inevitable that the police will crush them"
Well there's a lot of anarchist projects that aren't structured into coercive hierarchies and have been withstanding police pressure for fuckling decades (like i don't even know if CHAZ was anarchist and you're basing that on a fucking reddit comment).
"Yeah, but those are just fucking posers who don't do anything meaningful against capital, just want to look cool (except you know for example being in the fucking frontline of anticapitalist protests for decades and basically being the only reason that there are leftist movements in some parts of Europe)"
Seriously, i fucking love that this site is all "Left unity this, left unity that" and then the usual 4-5 people do this disgusting completely obvious sectarian agenda pushing and people are stiull buying this. Like okay, fucking protect China if you want, i'm actually seeing that issue much more nuanced because there are few people who do actual analysis of it, but then comes this shit, dismissing fucking decade old movements as being irrelevant because they don't singlehandedly solve the whole housing crisis in Spain or Greece is ridiculous.
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Hearsay but someone on GenZedong mentioned going to one of the earlier meetings and then leaving after someone got booed out for just saying the word "hierarchy" without any negative qualifiers.
And that is ABSOLUTELY the reason it fell apart, not being fucking besieged literally every fucking night by riot police and/or chuds. That only happens to muh organized ML projects
You realize that those are inevitable conditions for a dissident project, right? Like what good is your project if it can't withstand expected attacks? Do you think there will ever be a time that the police wouldn't fuck with you and then you could be successful? The idea behind having a structured apparatus is that it can better withstand those outside pressures.
"CHAZ was bad because it wasn't structured so it was inevitable that the police will crush them"
Well there's a lot of anarchist projects that aren't structured into coercive hierarchies and have been withstanding police pressure for fuckling decades (like i don't even know if CHAZ was anarchist and you're basing that on a fucking reddit comment).
"Yeah, but those are just fucking posers who don't do anything meaningful against capital, just want to look cool (except you know for example being in the fucking frontline of anticapitalist protests for decades and basically being the only reason that there are leftist movements in some parts of Europe)"
Seriously, i fucking love that this site is all "Left unity this, left unity that" and then the usual 4-5 people do this disgusting completely obvious sectarian agenda pushing and people are stiull buying this. Like okay, fucking protect China if you want, i'm actually seeing that issue much more nuanced because there are few people who do actual analysis of it, but then comes this shit, dismissing fucking decade old movements as being irrelevant because they don't singlehandedly solve the whole housing crisis in Spain or Greece is ridiculous.