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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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    the case of "police brutality" that sparked it was fake though

    if this happened in any western country you would be cheering

    of course, fuck the west. Iran is a relatively progressive, anti-imperialist force and an ally to the AES bloc and this is obviously not good faith protesters but violent people seeking regime change. Perhaps I need to remind you of the concepts of critical support, imperialism is the primary contraction & your duty to be a revolutionary defeatist and avoid imperialist intrigue.

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          • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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            Yes so when Iran's government crushes this you will respect their sovereignty and keep to yourself right?

            Iranians have self determination right now, they are one of the only nations in the world who do. What these protesters and compradors want is an elimination of Iranian sovereignty and submission to the global NATO caliphate

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              • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                I support anti-imperialist nations allied with AES against imperialist coups, just like in Syria, Belarus and Kazakshtan

                Start with Lenin

                For the Socialist of another country cannot expose the government and bourgeoisie of a country at war with “his own” nation, and not only because he does not know that country’s language, history, specific features, etc., but also because such exposure is part of imperialist intrigue, and not an internationalist duty.

                He is not an internationalist who vows and swears by internationalism. Only he is an internationalist who in a really internationalist way combats his own bourgeoisie, his own social-chauvinists, his own Kautskyites.

                (b) In every country the Socialist [me] must above all emphasise in all his propaganda the need to distrust not only every political phrase of his own government, but also every political phrase of his own social-chauvinists [this is you, don't laugh!], who in reality serve that government [anglo-american empire].

                https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/dec/25.htm

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                  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                    this isn't a working class protest and if it goes on you will unfortunately see that I'm right. we've been around the block too many times and seen this too many times before.

                  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                    These reforms are not directly linked to or caused by the riots, which were cracked down on sharply. As I hope Iran does here. If the riots in Kazakhstan were allowed to fester, it would become a reactionary fascist state like Libya. Xi and Kim Jong Un understand this, but for some reason western leftists cannot

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        The Iranian working class are not the ones rioting, which is why this will fail like all the other color revolution attempts

        This may come as a shock to our resident west-heads but the Iranian gov enjoys a large amount of buy-in with its working class despite the unpopularity of certain laws

        The Iranian working class arent stupid they dont want to overthrow their government and end up like their neighbors, so ironically you kinda kneecaped and muted your own point there

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          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            2 years ago

            I have yet to see a single protest in a western-opposed country that wasn’t labelled a Color Revolution

            Cuba, Bolivia, Hong Kong, Iran, Kazakhstan, Libya, Syria, Belarus all open and proven examples of protest "movements" being completely funded and backed by western private/governmental fronts, the MLs use the label color revolution because it accurately describes the actual existing reality of a global hegemony enforced by a single superpower and its allies, this shit ain't a conspiracy bruh it's all out in the open ML's literally have the receipts in many cases

            Also you don't just get to demand everyone else have the perfect take that completely satisfies every removedling doubt you have, if you disagree with the ML model then you're obligated to present an alternative analysis of geopolitics that explains the current state of things

            Of course when anti-MLs try to do that they inevitably end up having to deal with those ML receipts one way or another, and it usually ends up with them making an incoherent garbled mess of an argument that gets basic facts wrong; like the fact the Iranian working class is one of the government's strongest power blocks....shit that even a US think tank would admit to

            You claim to have family there and know the internal situation but basic stuff like that just slipped your mind? Kinda susssy

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              • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                And no matter what, the US will try to steer/ agitate and otherwise use that movement for their benefit. Because that’s what they always do. But that doesn’t invalidate the protests itself

                Do you realize how insane this proposition sounds to people on the ground in those countries? I'm sorry but the minute it becomes widespread knowledge the protest movements are funded and backed by hostile outside powers they are immediately invalidated to the vast majority of the population, especially the working class, again they are not stupid, they are not dupes who are tricked easily, countries who oppose US hegemony tend to be countries under siege, this understandably results in alot of nationalism so movements led by rich Westernized exile don't get much buy-in from the population who are living under western sanctions

                Legitimate protests do take place, difference is they're not reported by western media corporations

          • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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            Name one time the MLs were wrong and it wasn’t a color revolution. We have been consistently correct about these things, and eventually the radlibs come around and admit it (like in Syria, Libya, Hong Kong, Belarus, Cuba, Bolivia, etc where each and every time radlibs say it’s a real “working class” revolution and get proven wrong by the tankie hardliners as time goes on, and those goldfishbrained radlibs move onto the next op without any pattern recognition)

            • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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              We currently have a war right now because of a color revolution but people still somehow have doubt about it. It's funny since america are sanctioning Iran to shite right now, but most international iranian not protest against that, but riot and causing chaos over fake news.