Breeding is eugenics and it's fucking gross. No amount of forced labor is okay. So long as we exploit nonhumans, we will construct ideologies to devalue them.
I don't know how to convince you to care about someone other than yourself
of all the omnis making increasingly desperate arguments on these threads in unbelievably transparent attempts to shut up their own consciences screaming at them, youre the one im most convinced is gonna go vegan eventually
it may not be for a while, and before you get there youre probably gonna do an extra-smug "haha i showed that vegan loser that said id turn vegan, im loving meat more than ever" phase that youll cringe at later, but its gonna happen im calling it
What should be done? Legitimately curious, because I'd assumed the strategy was to repair the harm done by eugenics and let the animals be free generations later. Won't the species die out if put back in the wild?
Animal ag isn't going to end overnight, I don't think. What's most likely to happen is that it will phase out over time. That means animals will unfortunately still get slaughtered at a fraction of their life. But if we want to begin ending production, we'll necessarily have to phase out forced artificial insemination and breeding, which means there will be less and less of these animals born. In this way, their population will decline. Those who aren't slaughtered (though it is likely most still will be) can be rescued and given medical treatment. Layer hens, for instance, can be given birth control so they don't lay so often. And what eggs they do lay can be fed back to them (this is a natural behavior for hens).
Some species will die out. Turkeys raised for slaughter grow so big, they literally cannot have sex. The only way these turkeys breed is through artificial insemination.
But our goal should not be to wipe out domesticated animals simply because they are often dependent or disabled. Rather, we should care for them to the best of our ability.
Sunaura Taylor wrote a really good book you might be interested in about the intersection of disability and animal rights. Give it a read if you get the chance:
Beasts of Burden (I can find you other formats too if epub doesn't work for you)
Carnists do any amount of research before shooting off about how great it is to exploit sentient beings challenge
I know more than you
Read theory, lib
nothing I said about eggs is wrong or out of date so maybe you need to read more :^]
Breeding is eugenics and it's fucking gross. No amount of forced labor is okay. So long as we exploit nonhumans, we will construct ideologies to devalue them.
I don't know how to convince you to care about someone other than yourself
you will literally do all you can to think of any and every argument against a positive human-animal relationship
The relationship is oppressive in material reality. It doesn't matter how nice you paint it.
I'm done arguing with you
of all the omnis making increasingly desperate arguments on these threads in unbelievably transparent attempts to shut up their own consciences screaming at them, youre the one im most convinced is gonna go vegan eventually
it may not be for a while, and before you get there youre probably gonna do an extra-smug "haha i showed that vegan loser that said id turn vegan, im loving meat more than ever" phase that youll cringe at later, but its gonna happen im calling it
i'm eating eggs until eggs stop being made
i doubt it, but hmu when you wanna eat a bean
inshallah, comrade
better not eat wheat, corn, or potatoes then.
Don't pretend you give a shit
What should be done? Legitimately curious, because I'd assumed the strategy was to repair the harm done by eugenics and let the animals be free generations later. Won't the species die out if put back in the wild?
Animal ag isn't going to end overnight, I don't think. What's most likely to happen is that it will phase out over time. That means animals will unfortunately still get slaughtered at a fraction of their life. But if we want to begin ending production, we'll necessarily have to phase out forced artificial insemination and breeding, which means there will be less and less of these animals born. In this way, their population will decline. Those who aren't slaughtered (though it is likely most still will be) can be rescued and given medical treatment. Layer hens, for instance, can be given birth control so they don't lay so often. And what eggs they do lay can be fed back to them (this is a natural behavior for hens).
Some species will die out. Turkeys raised for slaughter grow so big, they literally cannot have sex. The only way these turkeys breed is through artificial insemination.
But our goal should not be to wipe out domesticated animals simply because they are often dependent or disabled. Rather, we should care for them to the best of our ability.
Sunaura Taylor wrote a really good book you might be interested in about the intersection of disability and animal rights. Give it a read if you get the chance:
Beasts of Burden (I can find you other formats too if epub doesn't work for you)